Daredevil vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by jrodslam
I guess Sabertooths scattered pieces are testimony to that ehh? 😆

Well Daredevil outfought Sabertooth. So by youre standards that means DD > Sabertooth > Wolverine ehh? 💃

daredevil didn't win the fight nor did he ever secure any sort of advantage during said fight.. aside from that, he was fighting a sabretooth who lacked his super strength, AND healing factor...
even then sabretooth had dd on the defensive and dd knew it...

in any case.. the scattered pieces statement is something that happened off panal.. sabretooth ALWAYS owns wolverine with the exception of 1 fight without a plot device.. there's no reason to assume he did so this time without plot device.

Originally posted by jinzin
daredevil didn't win the fight nor did he ever secure any sort of advantage during said fight.. aside from that, he was fighting a sabretooth who lacked his super strength, AND healing factor...
even then sabretooth had dd on the defensive and dd knew it...

Its clear that you dont have that comic.

And even so, from your and others point of views, Sabertooth is a better fighter thanDaredevil. So the healing and "Superstrength" shouldnt matter.

Originally posted by jinzin
no I understood you just fine.. you just had a lot of writing for a statment that didn't equate to that much that's all..

well i just try to see it from a diffent p.o.w...
i could've said something like: "Sabretooth wins this one, period!"
but i try to use my imagination...and try to find a logical explanation..
so play around with a couple of possibilities...knowing that Creed is guy who kills just for fun, his powers and fighting skills give him the cussion of confidence he needs in a battle...he's an offensive fighter..barely on the defense..it's in his character... but don't make the mistake to think that DD is just a push over...

Originally posted by jrodslam
You bring up early 90's? 😆 Are you serious? Who here brings up 90's stats?

I didint bring up stats at all. You did. Then when proved wrong, you say "90's stats blah" Leave stats out.

Show proof that Sabertooths fighting ability is better than Daredevils. Simple.

why would he suddenly lose fighting ability when he's been in constant combat since his first appearance? 🤨

are you assuming he got worse over time? 😕

if so how you justify such a view point? are you aware how fighting ability works? you get better through experience not worse... 😕

the stats you have are contradictory and outdated.. people on these forums have brought up hundreds of examples of them being wrong..

the proof is in the pudding though...

wolverine>daredevil
sabretooth>wolverine

sabretooth>daredevil... simple as.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And even so, from your and others point of views, Sabertooth is a better fighter thanDaredevil. So the healing and "Superstrength" shouldnt matter.

it should actually since those are parts of his powers... 😕

Originally posted by RogerRamjet
well i just try to see it from a diffent p.o.w...
i could've said something like: "Sabretooth wins this one, period!"
but i try to use my imagination...and try to find a logical explanation..
so play around with a couple of possibilities...knowing that Creed is guy who kills just for fun, his powers and fighting skills give him the cussion of confidence he needs in a battle...he's an offensive fighter..barely on the defense..it's in his character... but don't make the mistake to think that DD is just a push over...

I haven't made the mistake to think he's a pushover.. he just doesn't have the tools to take down sabes...

your post was fine.. it was just very reduntant..

Originally posted by jrodslam
Please can someone show PROOF that Sabertooth or Shang-Chi is a better fighter than Daredevil. Especially Sabertooth.

believing the tradingcards i once collected, it said that Sabretooth is a master at all forms of hand to hand combat..so is Wolverine and Captain America

Originally posted by RogerRamjet
believing the tradingcards i once collected, it said that Sabretooth is a master at all forms of hand to hand combat..so is Wolverine and Captain America

yup.. the cards stated this an abundance of times..

Originally posted by jinzin
the stats you have are contradictory and outdated.. people on these forums have brought up hundreds of examples of them being wrong..

the proof is in the pudding though...

wolverine>daredevil
sabretooth>wolverine

sabretooth>daredevil... simple as.

If youre going to complain about current stats, dont bring them up at all. Everyone knows current stats and bios are BS. Thus we dont go by them. You hear noone bringing up stats from the 90's. You gotta be kidding me.

Wolverine>Daredevil? Who ended up at the end of ma kitana. That could go either way considering how Daredevil was hlding back.

Sabertooth>Wolverine only because in their battles strength and healing are the key factors in which Sabertooth has over Wovlerine. No fighting ability comes into play only rage. Thats where smarts has to come in. And Daredevil > Wolverine > Sabertooth in that department.

Originally posted by RogerRamjet
believing the tradingcards i once collected, it said that Sabretooth is a master at all forms of hand to hand combat..so is Wolverine and Captain America

Scans?

Originally posted by jrodslam
If youre going to complain about current stats, dont bring them up at all. Everyone knows current stats and bios are BS. Thus we dont go by them. You hear noone bringing up stats from the 90's. You gotta be kidding me.

Wolverine>Daredevil? Who ended up at the end of ma kitana. That could go either way considering how Daredevil was hlding back.

Sabertooth>Wolverine only because in their battles strength and healing are the key factors in which Sabertooth has over Wovlerine. No fighting ability comes into play only rage. Thats where smarts has to come in. And Daredevil > Wolverine > Sabertooth in that department.

"Everyone knows current stats and bios are BS. . except when I want to use them. . ."

Funny how in that one fight with the Hydra controlled Wolverine, the comic starts out with wolverine on top of DD about to kill him. . .and then Elektra saves DD. . . but lets just forget that part shall we?

Who had DD fought that's so impressive?

A lacking his strength and healing facotr Sabertooth? Not a problem here since he has them back. 🙂

But oh yeah DD is more agile than a person that has superhuman agility. 🙄 And DD is the greatest martial artist in the world. *swoon* . . despite not being able to list off anyone impressive that he has fought . . . 🤣

Originally posted by Creshosk
You are such a fanboy. 😆

"Everyone knows current stats and bios are BS. . except when I want to use them. . ."

Funny how in that one fight with the Hydra controlled Wolverine, the comic starts out with wolverine on top of DD about to kill him. . .and then Elektra saves DD. . . but lets just forget that part shall we?

Who had DD fought that's so impressive?

A lacking his strength and healing facotr Sabertooth? Not a problem here since he has them back. 🙂

But oh yeah DD is more agile than a person that has superhuman agility. 🙄 And DD is the greatest martial artist in the world. *swoon* . . despite not being able to list off anyone impressive that he has fought . . . 🤣

not that u would care from a wolverine supporter, but that was well said.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You are such a fanboy. 😆

"Everyone knows current stats and bios are BS. . except when I want to use them. . ."

Call me a fanboy? Very mature. First off, i wasnt the one who brought up stats. When others say "Hes the best MA on Earth." I want proof. Dont just say it. Show me where it stated this. "Hes a 7 in fighting ability and DD is a 5, so he loses" Sound familiar?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Funny how in that one fight with the Hydra controlled Wolverine, the comic starts out with wolverine on top of DD about to kill him. . .and then Elektra saves DD. . . but lets just forget that part shall we?

So youre calling that a fight now ehh? When Wolverine snuck up on a sleeping Matt. Lol. Funny. If Wolverine would have killed him, that means there was no fight, so your point is nulled my friend. When they actually were fighting Daredevil was holding back trying to snap Wolverine out of it. Or did you forget about that?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Who had DD fought that's so impressive?

Ive already listed people who DD has beat. Go to the DD vs Wolverine thread. You were there. I dont know every single person Daredevil has fought. I see youre getting upset to the point that you expect me to own every Daredevil comic and appearance.

Who has Sabertooth fought and or beat thats impressive?

Originally posted by Creshosk
A lacking his strength and healing facotr Sabertooth? Not a problem here since he has them back. 🙂

Still stronger than Daredevil and has his senses right? As well as his so called 7 fighting asbility(from the 90's). Him not having his healing factor and improved strength is the reason he lost? Not entirely. He should still be a formidable h2h combatant. Its not like when he fought DD, he lost it. daredevil didnt stab him or shoot him. He just beat his ass. You make it seem that if Wolverine loses his healing, he cant fight.

Originally posted by Creshosk
But oh yeah DD is more agile than a person that has superhuman agility. 🙄 And DD is the greatest martial artist in the world. *swoon* . . despite not being able to list off anyone impressive that he has fought . . . 🤣

Daredevil has peak human agility. And ive never said that Daredevil was the greatest Martial Artist. Now i see you are getting desperate.

Originally posted by jinzin
daredevil didn't win the fight nor did he ever secure any sort of advantage during said fight.. aside from that, he was fighting a sabretooth who lacked his super strength, AND healing factor...
even then sabretooth had dd on the defensive and dd knew it...

Originally posted by jinzin
why would he suddenly lose fighting ability when he's been in constant combat since his first appearance? What the f**k?

are you assuming he got worse over time?

Going by your standards, during this time he should be a 7 right?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Call me a fanboy? Very mature. First off, i wasnt the one who brought up stats. When others say "Hes the best MA on Earth." I want proof. Dont just say it. Show me where it stated this. "Hes a 7 in fighting ability and DD is a 5, so he loses" Sound familiar?

So youre calling that a fight now ehh? When Wolverine snuck up on a sleeping Matt. Lol. Funny. If Wolverine would have killed him, that means there was no fight, so your point is nulled my friend. When they actually were fighting Daredevil was holding back trying to snap Wolverine out of it. Or did you forget about that?

Ive already listed people who DD has beat. Go to the DD vs Wolverine thread. You were there. I dont know every single person Daredevil has fought. I see youre getting upset to the point that you expect me to own every Daredevil comic and appearance.

Who has Sabertooth fought and or beat thats impressive?

Still stronger than Daredevil and has his senses right? As well as his so called 7 fighting asbility(from the 90's). Him not having his healing factor and improved strength is the reason he lost? Not entirely. He should still be a formidable h2h combatant. Its not like when he fought DD, he lost it. daredevil didnt stab him or shoot him. He just beat his ass. You make it seem that if Wolverine loses his healing, he cant fight.

Daredevil has peak human agility. And ive never said that Daredevil was the greatest Martial Artist. Now i see you are getting desperate.

screw fighting. daredevil can't inflict enough damage to take sabretooth down. he loses.

by the way, fighting skills on characters are determined by the writer and there are many writer out there that may have a different view on th characters powers and abilities.

Daredevil beat him while distracted on different occasions. He also admitted Sabertooth was bigger and stronger, yet Daredevil was stil punching him through walls. Daredevil is just a better fighter. Simple.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Call me a fanboy? Very mature. First off, i wasnt the one who brought up stats. When others say "Hes the best MA on Earth." I want proof. Dont just say it. Show me where it stated this. "Hes a 7 in fighting ability and DD is a 5, so he loses" Sound familiar?

I hate to bring it up but DD has a 6 shang chi has a 5"

Sound familiar? 🤣

Originally posted by jrodslam
So youre calling that a fight now ehh? When Wolverine snuck up on a sleeping Matt. Lol. Funny. If Wolverine would have killed him, that means there was no fight, so your point is nulled my friend. When they actually were fighting Daredevil was holding back trying to snap Wolverine out of it. Or did you forget about that?

And so much for DD's supersenses, that better hearing should have alerted him from his sleep. . guess not eh?

And you said that DD beat hercules. . yeah knocking him down is a fight too eh? 🤣

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ive already listed people who DD has beat. Go to the DD vs Wolverine thread. You were there. I dont know every single person Daredevil has fought. I see youre getting upset to the point that you expect me to own every Daredevil comic and appearance.

"If you don't find them impressive its not my fault."

I'm not desperate, I expect you to back youer claims up with proof just like you're demanding of the others. 🤣 As soon as you started asking for proof I stopped taking your word for things.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Who has Sabertooth fought and or beat thats impressive?/[quote] Classic rouge? 🤣 Go to the respect the tooth thread.

[QUOTE=5356317]Originally posted by jrodslam
Still stronger than Daredevil and has his senses right? As well as his so called 7 fighting asbility(from the 90's).

Originally posted by jrodslam
Him not having his healing factor and improved strength is the reason he lost?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Not entirely. He should still be a formidable h2h combatant. Its not like when he fought DD, he lost it. daredevil didnt stab him or shoot him. He just beat his ass. You make it seem that if Wolverine loses his healing, he cant fight.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Daredevil has peak human agility.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And ive never said that Daredevil was the greatest Martial Artist. Now i see you are getting desperate.