^ DD has several feats of batting away bullets throughout his career as recently as a few months ago and Wolverine... doesn't.
Originally posted by Daredevil1Except it's not shown to be higher than DD's. Whatever, I'm not going to debate this with someone who's lying to himself.
And Logan speed is shown to be higher in comic books. Triple shrug
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ DD has several feats of batting away bullets throughout his career as recently as a few months ago and Wolverine... doesn't. Except it's not shown to be higher than DD's. Whatever, I'm not going to debate this with someone who's lying to himself.
Negative. I'm and not lying to myself its just a fact that Logan is stronger and faster then Daredevil. If you don't like it sorry GO.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0wasnt that attributed to his radar sense though? he can tell exactly when and where someone is shooting and he just anticipates it.
^ DD has several feats of batting away bullets throughout his career as recently as a few months ago and Wolverine... doesn't. Except it's not shown to be higher than DD's. Whatever, I'm not going to debate this with someone who's lying to himself.
^ His aim-dodging is attributed to his radar sense. But he's still swatting away bullets fired at him from point blank range after they've been fired.
Originally posted by Daredevil1As long as you dismiss the fact that Daredevil has more superior speed feats. But whatever, character statements and your imaginary hierarchy count more than actual on-panel feats. I get it. And strength has nothing to do with our discussion.
Negative. I'm and not lying to myself its just a fact that Logan is stronger and faster then Daredevil. If you don't like it sorry GO.
Punisher has 2 machine guns in his hands, one gun aimed at DD, another aimed at Creed. for sure DD is gonna dodge the most bullets, but Creed can Tank the most hits with his durability advantage and healing. not calling creed a slow poke that he wont be able to dodge any, but DD has the lead in that department.
Originally posted by SamZEDNot after they've been fired and not via swinging. You're talking a small handful of people. Cap hiding behind a shield or Batman covering his lower face isn't what I'm talking about.
Tbh everybody and their gramma have bullet deflecting feats these days. Doesnt make them all faster than Lgan.
Originally posted by chomperx9For starters, he shouldn't turn his back several times in the fight... which is what he did.
what can DD do really against Creeds Healing ?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
As long as you dismiss the fact that Daredevil has more superior speed feats. But whatever, character statements and your imaginary hierarchy count more than actual on-panel feats. I get it. And strength has nothing to do with our discussion.
I don't dismiss that he has more bullet feats but that type of logic doesn't substitute over all speed showings and direct comparison. Now on this imaginary hierarchy is nothing but un true since statements in the stories of Logan possessing enhanced speed in the stories themselves. (I'm not talking about hand books)
And in the stories DD has been claimed at athlete level. This is anything but imaginary.
^ Greatest consistent speed feats may not substitute all else, but they actually do take center stage over everything else. Ambiguous speed feats and character statements are so far low in consideration, you'd have to find 10 statements by DD admitting to Wolverine that he's faster to gain any sort of traction here.
Originally posted by chomperx9If you're referring to bullet-timing, several times over the years, including a few months ago.
when was this ?
If you're referring to his fight with Sabretooth, late 80's, I think.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0issue # please for the late 80s
^ Greatest consistent speed feats may not substitute all else, but they actually do take center stage over everything else. Ambiguous speed feats and character statements are so far low in consideration, you'd have to find 10 statements by DD admitting to Wolverine that he's faster to gain any sort of traction here. If you're referring to bullet-timing, several times over the years, including a few months ago.If you're referring to his fight with Sabretooth, late 80's, I think.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Greatest consistent speed feats may not substitute all else, but they actually do take center stage over everything else. Ambiguous speed feats and character statements are so far low in consideration, you'd have to find 10 statements by DD admitting to Wolverine that he's faster to gain any sort of traction here. If you're referring to bullet-timing, several times over the years, including a few months ago.
No they don't take substitute over everything else. You have to look outside the box and not just isolated single feats but you must look at the big picture with feats(which Logan has), to direct comparisons and as well power level citations in the stories. DD doesn't even need one admission, by looking at the whole picture. But go ahead and continue thinking Matt is faster even though its wrong.
^ They take precedence over everything else. They don't substitute over everything else. Perhaps if you had ten statements from Daredevil where he admits that Wolverine is faster than he is, that precedence would be substantially diminished. You don't have that. Not even close. And I don't need to "look outside the box" when what's inside the box is more than enough. Your choice of wording on your approach was poor and unfortunate, as the only point to looking outside the box is to manufacture some excuse to disregard how things are.
We disagree with each other. Sharply.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0both turned their backs, who u refering to there ?
Not after they've been fired and not via swinging. You're talking a small handful of people. Cap hiding behind a shield or Batman covering his lower face isn't what I'm talking about. For starters, he shouldn't turn his back several times in the fight... which is what he did.
