Classic Juggernaut vs Characters able to lift 100tons and just above that

There's no mention of 85 tons unless I'm completely blowing over something.

Originally posted by The Ion
There's no mention of 85 tons unless I'm completely blowing over something.

Ooopps .... I know i read it somewhere, it may have been the House of M, or the Age of Acocalypse one ! 😮 Any way even the 'exact' strength levels are not that accurate. They said that Namor can lift a 100 tons in water. He has regularly shown he can lift thousands of tons, inside and out of water. 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Infact most Class 50's can ! 🙂

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand.

If needs to be taken notice of !!!!!!!!! 🙂

Oh I know you're talking about. The Secrets of House of M handbook. Yeah, that one definitely specifies him at Class 85.

"Infact most Class 50's can !

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand."

Exactly. Thats why the marvel old system is crap. 100 tons dont mean = top tier.

Not when guys that are weaker in relation with those can do it.

Originally posted by olympian
"Infact most Class 50's can !

Vision weighs 90 tons
Rogue has lifted planes weighing 100 's of tons
Akethma threw Vision with one hand."

Exactly. Thats why the marvel old system is crap. 100 tons dont mean = top tier.

Not when guys that are weaker in relation with those can do it.

The new Level system is a far more accurate guide, you just have to ignore the numerical values.

E.G. Most Level 6 characters can lift thousands of tons, but the Handbook lists Level 6 characters, as being able to lift between 75 - 100 tons. This is more like the strength range for level 5. Level 7 characters, i.e the old Class 100, can pretty much lift whatever the story needs them to lift. Such scenarios are rare for Marvel, which is why i believe that D.C. characters are a lot stronger ! 😛

Meh! handbooks say Sasquatach is 75tons, yet he has greatly shown he is way more than that.

"which is why i believe that D.C. characters are a lot stronger"

If wer going by handbooks yes they are.

But since i go by comics, they arent. Theyr comparable for the most part. There are exceptions of course.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Meh! handbooks say Sasquatach is 75tons, yet he has greatly shown he is way more than that.

Thats my point !!!!!!!!!!! He listed as Level 6 which means he can probaly lift Kilo tons of mass ! 🙂

Originally posted by olympian
"which is why i believe that D.C. characters are a lot stronger"

If wer going by handbooks yes they are.

But since i go by comics, they arent. Theyr comparable for the most part. There are exceptions of course.

No they are not !!!!!!!!! 🙂

The Hulk lifts Tanks, Superman spins mountains on his finger tips !

Show me Superman spinning a mountain with his finger tips in continuity.

Originally posted by olympian
Show me Superman spinning a mountain with his finger tips in continuity.

I don't have pics, but i have been told he can do it from a realiable source ! 😛

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Thats my point !!!!!!!!!!! He listed as Level 6 which means he can probaly lift Kilo tons of mass ! 🙂

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2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

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75 tons my ass

"I don't have pics, but i have been told he can do it from a realiable source !"

Bush administration does it again huh 🪩

Originally posted by King_Mungi
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_12.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_13.jpg

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_11.jpg

75 tons my ass

Exactly !!!!!!! 🙂

He's level 6 ! 🙂

Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Exactly !!!!!!! 🙂

He's level 6 ! 🙂

Well the thing with that is he has lifted much more than the 75-100 ton mark, I hate the handbooks and just go by feats to determine one's strength.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well the thing with that is he has lifted much more than the 75-100 ton mark, I hate the handbooks and just go by feats to determine one's strength.

Exactly what i've been trying to say .... Level 6 no longer means '75-100 ton mark' ! 🙂

Colossus-In in his armored form, Colossus possesses superhuman strength. As a teenager, he was able to lift (press) 70 tons. Now, as a fully grown man, Colossus' strength has proven to be even greater, however the upper limits of his strength are unknown. His steel form also possesses a high degree of invulnerability to conventional injury. Colossus' armored form can withstand falls from great heights, extreme temperatures of both hot and cold, high caliber machine gun shells, and large amounts of explosives without sustaining injury

Originally posted by golem370
Colossus-In in his armored form, Colossus possesses superhuman strength. As a teenager, he was able to lift (press) 70 tons. Now, as a fully grown man, Colossus' strength has proven to be even greater, however the upper limits of his strength are unknown. His steel form also possesses a high degree of invulnerability to conventional injury. Colossus' armored form can withstand falls from great heights, extreme temperatures of both hot and cold, high caliber machine gun shells, and large amounts of explosives without sustaining injury

No more Bios Golem ! 😉

I was just showing that infact Colossus is above 70tons now.