Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Well, what I meant was that the npc Clone Commandos faired well against them. Even if you ignore that point, ARC Troopers in general are much smarter than Magnadroids. Alpha, for example, survived the entire Clone Wars and was on the front lines virtually the entire time.
Oh, I know. I don't mean to down-grade the abilities of an ARC Trooper. They would be the most difficult opponent a Guard can face, after a Jedi. But I think that the ARC has less of a chance in this battle than the IG-100. That's not to say it couldn't go in the Trooper's favor. But I'm leaning towards the MagnaGuard in this.
Grievous and five remaining droids completed their march to the bunker, deflecting the fire of three troopers guarding the entrance. . .Even if they get hit, it took dozens of blaster bolts to bring down a single droid, unlike the clones, who in ROTS went down in one. A machine that can fight after being decapacitated, having limbs dismembered, and being pierced by enough bolts to bring down a squad of clones isn't going to be destroyed very easily.
I don't understand. . . Lightsaber-resistant? The staffs. Block lightsabers. Block blaster bolts. Does that answer it?
Don't get me wrong; the ARC isn't a poor shot, not by far. But do you think it could hit an upper-tier Jedi with a rocket launcher? The MagnaGuards are imbued with amazing abilities. Extreme agility, magentized soles, unimaginably quick reflexes. . . They aren't Grievous's prize 'accomplices' for nothing.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Have you read Republic Commando: Hard Contact? I'll look it up some other time, I don't feel like doing so right now, but I know Darman got hit with several blaster bolts while fighting Hokan's thugs when the were bruning down the barn and I believe he described getting hit with them as like being punched (due to his armor). He is a Clone Commando. I doubt ARC armor would be any less durable and protective than Commando armor.Okay, so they block lightsabers but that doesn't mean they block blaster bolts. That's an assumption. There's no proof.
ARC's have quick reflexes, agility and arn't the Republic's prized Troopers for nothing. And ARC's are supposed to be nearly as strong as Jango himself. That's not something to be taken lightly.
I've already addressed each and every one of these, directly or not, in my past posts. I'm not going to spend any more time here.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
I've already addressed each and every one of these, directly or not, in my past posts. I'm not going to spend any more time here.
No. Although an ARC's armor is good, it isn't on par with that of the MagnaGuard. these things are built to the General's exact specifications, and there are very few of them. The ARC's, while rare, have a few hundred in their ranks. And their refkexes? Please. Are you saying a clone trooper has reflexes on par with those of a Jedi?
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
No. Although an ARC's armor is good, it isn't on par with that of the MagnaGuard. these things are built to the General's exact specifications, and there are very few of them. The ARC's, while rare, have a few hundred in their ranks. And their refkexes? Please. Are you saying a clone trooper has reflexes on par with those of a Jedi?
Which must explain why the jedi could spar and beat their ass bare handed in The Cestus Deception, huh?
Yeah. Both Obi and Kit Fisto had more unarmed capability than even ARC troopers.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, but ARC armnor is built to the Jedi's exact specifications. And as for how many ARC's there are, hundreds? Thatr many? Where did you get this number? And are you saying Magna Guards reflexes are on par with a Jedi's? Maybe close, but not on par.
WTF? Since when have the Jedi had a hand in the training and creation of the ARC Troopers? You're grasping at straws here, and it's only destroying your argument even more.
And as for the ARC count. Considering that they detached four of them to Ord Cestus, I'd say they have a solid number of troopers.
Yes, I'm saying that the MagnaGuard's reflexes rival those of a Jedi. Not a high-level Knight or master, like Anakin or Obi-Wan, but there are likely many Jedi that would fall to a IG-100 in single combat.
Yeah, but they're Jedi.
*Gasp* Revelations!!
And of course they're Jedi. Jedi that can be harassed by Grievous's MagnaGuards. Jedi who wasted ARC troopers in sparring matches like it was their job.
It would be embarassing for any Jedi, let alone a Jedi with their reputation, to have less unarmed capability than an ARC.
The same ARC's who would be wasting droids built and trained for the kill? Droids that slaughtered Palpatine's elite guard? Erm, no.
Originally posted by Ianus
That's untrue. The mercenary in Medstar I: Battle Surgeons has beaten jedi before in unarmed combat. It's possible to do.
WTF? Since when have the Jedi had a hand in the training and creation of the ARC Troopers? You're grasping at straws here, and it's only destroying your argument even more.
And as for the ARC count. Considering that they detached four of them to Ord Cestus, I'd say they have a solid number of troopers.
Yes, I'm saying that the MagnaGuard's reflexes rival those of a Jedi. Not a high-level Knight or master, like Anakin or Obi-Wan, but there are likely many Jedi that would fall to a IG-100 in single combat.
And of course they're Jedi. Jedi that can be harassed by Grievous's MagnaGuards. Jedi who wasted ARC troopers in sparring matches like it was their job.
The same ARC's who would be wasting droids built and trained for the kill? Droids that slaughtered Palpatine's elite guard? Erm, no.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
I'm not bothering here anyore. All you do is rephrase your same old, beat-down arguments, without a single logical or well-thought out one. Just move on with your life, or admit defeat.
Originally posted by Ballister
Back to the MG's vs ARC's, MG's were designed to kill Jedi. An ARC could stand up to it, but then the MG could chuck its electro-staff at him.
MGs' aims are very accurate.