Who should have the world in his shoulders?
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Why Hercules of course.
Who should have the world in his shoulders?
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Why Hercules of course.
Originally posted by LethalFemme
I don't know why everybody sees fights between Superman and Wonder Woman as one sided? She'd be his greatest challenge she's just about equal to him, she's a close friend and she's fully capable of using one of his greatest weaknesses against him magic, which she has in s**t loads.
She is tough but she is nowhere near supermans level when he gets pissed off, and normally when they do fight she does try to use his weaknesses against him, like when they fought in her own comic and she pulled out a kryptonite ring against him and it didnt help her or in their fight before that she tried using her mystic sword against him and tried to stab him and he just caught her arm at superspeed and pretty much just back handed her a couple of hundred feet before she could even realize it. Yes wonderwoman is tough but she is still not on the same playing level as superman, all wonderwoman has pretty much become is a watered down version of superman over time. In the DC higharchy of heavy brawlers i would have to rank it superman then captain marvel then wonderwoman.
Originally posted by olympian
"She is tough but she is nowhere near supermans level when he gets pissed off"In that case we still need to wait to see a pissed off Superman showing that difference of levels.
While she did end up more hurt than he did, so far the lady has won twice against "all out Supes".
Nowhere near? Nah.
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And one of them was a Superman Doomsday hybrid!✅
Originally posted by olympianShe also used kryptonite to do this. And you'll also notice he beat her unconscious at the beginning of the fight, then she woke up later when she started burning up in the atmosphere. lol.
"She is tough but she is nowhere near supermans level when he gets pissed off"In that case we still need to wait to see a pissed off Superman showing that difference of levels.
While she did end up more hurt than he did, so far the lady has won twice against "all out Supes".
Nowhere near? Nah.
"That was a much weaker Superman though."
Not from some posters around here. Does that means that Supes and DOS Doomsday wer weaker than Marvel top guns like i said after all? 😉
Two details tho. Orion was also weaker in showings like everyone post crisis.
And he still has another one way after the Byrne era. 😛
"She also used kryptonite to do this. And you'll also notice he beat her unconscious at the beginning of the fight, then she woke up later when she started burning up in the atmosphere. lol."
And who got burned in the end? yeah tought so.
Yah, she cut Superman sure, but she snapped Max Lord's next to save herself... and everyone else. She got beat unconscious. He didn't. In fact, her only upper hand in the entire fight was when she clapped his ears and kicked him, lol. He didn't even show that it hurt besides him putting his hand over his neck, nothing pointed to him being in pain. Not even an ouch! Then he started rambling about how he watched Doomsday kill Lois. He was in shock, and she got her ass beat mostly through the entirety of her own comic.
Originally posted by Juntai
Yah, she cut Superman sure, but she snapped Max Lord's next to save herself... and everyone else. She got beat unconscious. He didn't. In fact, her only upper hand in the entire fight was when she clapped his ears and kicked him, lol. He didn't even show that it hurt besides him putting his hand over his neck, nothing pointed to him being in pain. Not even an ouch! Then he started rambling about how he watched Doomsday kill Lois. He was in shock, and she got her ass beat mostly through the entirety of her own comic.
The really funny thing is during the whole fight HE was trying to kill her while she was only trying to incapacitate him and get to Max Lord........lol
Originally posted by NoFate007
Batman, no question in my mind. Right now its pretty much Superman and Batman teaming up with a little more weight on Superman. Wonder Woman is who I'd consider is 3rd in rank. So what would happen? Batman moves up, Wonder Woman moves up, and who becomes 3rd? Green Lantern. Wally and MM are still as big as before, if not more, but they wouldn't really move up in rank too much. As someone stated before, the entire JLA moves on, and they all work together - under the leadership of Batman, because he is the most logical person and is the best to handle the massive group despite his loner qualities.The better question is, depending on who kills Superman, how many villains die soon afterwards by people like Diana who are extremely upset and just want to get back at them now? Say its Luthor that finally puts the last nail in the casket, how many villains do you think would be killed in retaliation (since we all know when they find out Superman is dead, they'll cause a mass riot). I'd say more than half of the villains that aren't too too too much of a threat, people like Copperhead and Shade and whatnot, plus a few big threats, but of course not someone like Darkseid or Doomsday since that's asking too much. Luthor's dead, Parasite and all them, dead. A lot of villains would die if Superman wasn't there, just purely out of retaliation and anger. Although Batman is the leader, he wouldn't be able to satisfy the blood lust of the entire JLA for a long while. In fact I'd say the world would be much safer if they just killed those villains and didn't have Superman, save for the few threats that they depend on him solely for, like Doomsday.
I disagree. Batman is not the "head honcho" type. (as a superhero, at least) He operates from the shadows, the mastermind behind the grand plot. He doesn't have the personality of the leader of the JLA. Alan Scott already IS one of the big guys in the JSA, and is simply cooler than the other front runners in the JLA. Vote Sentinel! (or Wonderwoman...)
Oh, and WW is literally a hair behind Superman in lifting power.
Originally posted by Dizzle
I disagree. Batman is not the "head honcho" type. (as a superhero, at least) He operates from the shadows, the mastermind behind the grand plot. He doesn't have the personality of the leader of the JLA. Alan Scott already IS one of the big guys in the JSA, and is simply cooler than the other front runners in the JLA. Vote Sentinel! (or Wonderwoman...)Oh, and WW is literally a hair behind Superman in lifting power.
Thanks Dizzle. 😉
Originally posted by olympianRead Superman MOT #13. "All-Out" Superman as you put it took on the entire Justice League including Orion and his Astro-Force.
All out Supes isent all what is cracked to be. Orion has stalemated him in that level before without using the astro force as an offensive weapon against him.
WonderWoman, Orion, Steele, Martian Manhunter, and others tried to hold Supes down while Kyle made K-nite too stop him. I think WW actually told him to hurry up cause THEY cannot hold him for long.