What Black characters can defeat Superman?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Normally whenever a question regarding ethnicity of African decent is raised, I'll post a link to a list of blach Superheroes.

I've found a better list:
http://www.blacksuperhero.com/exhibits2.cfm

😄

How do you figure?

Hahaha, quote from the Boondocks. And Dogma. Funny show/movie.

this is easy. the new kid who is masquerading as firestorm....he can just transmute any element into kryptonite, or blast him continually with red solar energy

is the Boondocks not the funneist freaking show on tv? i swear to god aftre seeing that R. kelly episode i did everything short of making it in my shorts laughing

I allways type american in after african. I blame public school education.

Anyway, Since when was Jerusalem White?

Originally posted by manjaro
this is easy. the new kid who is masquerading as firestorm....he can just transmute any element into kryptonite, or blast him continually with red solar energy

ummm im gonna go out on a limb and say yeah

I think I've made my point, anyway. Not counting Muhummad Ali, the upper echelons of comic book power are as whitewashed as elephaunt tusk.

Discuss.

Well, i think it has to do with all the main comic icons being established back in the 40's/50's. Black people weren't as accepted back then, only you're basic caucasians were. And, in my opinion when it comes to DC and Marvel, the majority of readers don't want to see anyone take the spotlight away from their old faves and they're afraid of too much change.

Take the X-Men for example. The main X-Men are pretty much the same as they were 20 years ago. How many kids from New Mutants or Gen X made it to the big leagues. A couple yeah, but how long did they manage to stay on a team? Not long at all. Which sucks, cause we're missing out on a lot of potential.

Another example is Sentry. Sure, he's a Superman clone, but he's got alot of potential to be his own character. yet a lot of people condemn him before knowing anything about him. Mainly cause he's being marketed as Marvels most powerful hero. people don't like that he's taking spotlight from Thor, or Ironman or whoever.

That's just the way it seems to go with comics... IMO.

As a black man, i would honestly like to see some black superheros numbers rise, as well as those of latin(latino american) descent.
Even if not in the main DCU, how about Vertigo? I mean look at the angels portrayed by Michael and Lucifer! Caucasian with blond hair and blue eyes....It funny how far some things go. They couldn't have been portrayed as indistinct beings?? They(writers) borrow from biblical mythology, yet where in the bible did it say that angels resembled humans?? Kinda depressing, when the Garden of Eden is believed to have been in Africa/Arabia somewhere. Africans are the original man from a scientific and historical view. But to look at the world, you'd never know it. Jesus looking like Jim Cavielez(sp?)! Hahah. More like the people we are "liberating" in Iraq. Truth! Brainwashing extends so far. Sorry for the rant, but its been bothering me for a very long time. But would America accept Elua Ben Yosef if it was known he looked like Bin Laden?? Question i don't think would get a positive answer.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Anyway, Since when was Jerusalem White?

Think about who wereand are predominently living there. Egyptians are classified as caucasian, Italians are classified as caucasian. Muslims are also caucasian. Israelites are also caucasian.

at the time it was what? Jews and Romans?

So which of those groups is not caucasian?

I ****ing hate this topic now.

It's a good topic, but goddamn, if the public WANTS more black characters, there WOULD BE MORE BLACK CHARACTERS!

Is it that hard to relate to someone outside your race?

Originally posted by long pig
Is it that hard to relate to someone outside your race?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Since when was it not?

Think about who wereand are predominently living there. Egyptians are classified as caucasian, Italians are classified as caucasian. Muslims are also caucasian. Israelites are also caucasian.

at the time it was what? Jews and Romans?

So which of those groups is not caucasian?

Well, most people see this :, not this:.

So, that's probably why pepole don't understand that the word Caucasian covers a VAST amount of people.

Originally posted by long pig
Well, most people see this :, not this:.

So, that's probably why pepole don't understand that the word Caucasian covers a VAST amount of people.

But do you think that he considers himself to be Caucasian? Even if he knew thats what scientists might see him as?
And Creshok, people living back then didn't look like Caucazoids of today. Look at the majority of African Americans living in America. Look at the ancestors still in Africa. Mixing of the blood will cause people to lose that which distinguished them from other groups. So read descriptions of Yosef in the bible/Aramaic. Brown skin with wooly(nappy?) hair. Sounds like my cousin Aaron......
Not to make yall uncomfortable, but remember official history is written by winners/victors. And i thought it was well known that the pictures of Yosef and his disciples were based on the artists family and friends. Not to make him sound arrogant, but he just created what he was familiar with. No heat

Originally posted by UniOmni
But do you think that he considers himself to be Caucasian? Even if he knew thats what scientists might see him as?
And Creshok, people living back then didn't look like Caucazoids of today. Look at the majority of African Americans living in America. Look at the ancestors still in Africa. Mixing of the blood will cause people to lose that which distinguished them from other groups. So read descriptions of Yosef in the bible/Aramaic. Brown skin with wooly(nappy?) hair. Sounds like my cousin Aaron......
Not to make yall uncomfortable, but remember official history is written by winners/victors. And i thought it was well known that the pictures of Yosef and his disciples were based on the artists family and friends. Not to make him sound arrogant, but he just created what he was familiar with. No heat

And the wooly hair? Yeah that doesn't necciserily mean a Negroid either.

So look at the history of the place, at what point would there have been a change from then to now? the ruleing class were the Romans right? Rome, odern day Italy in europe.

Granted there is the 40 year egress from Egypt, howefver the ancient egyptians we can also see as being Caucazoids, based on their artwork, their facial structures and cranial measurements are still caucazoid.

So I still haven't been told when it changed.

Back to topic...
Spawn

Attempting to ethnicly describe people of ancient Judea based on present day Israelies or anyone else from the region is relatively pointless. The inhabitants of the region have constantly changed...and the immigration of "whites" is a more modern trend. Genetic evidence from mitochondrial DNA shows that people of that period where also closer related to Africans than the people at the present. UniOmni is right, Jesus was described as having brown skin and wooly hair...Thus he hid in Egypt because thats where he fit in. There was a show on discovery channel a few years ago where they explained what he looked like.

And yea...he could Superman's ass...and he's Black

Jesus was caucasian, well.... arabian caucasian.... like a true aryan....

Spawn (HellKing).............. JAKEEM THUNDER !!!!

Black Panther could certainly manage it if he had the time and information.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Meteor Man?