Eternity vs the Anti-Monitor

no Presence is in terms equal to TOAA. He is the entirety. TGEB is the opposite entirety. As I see it it is Word/Logoz/Source and it is based partially on Christianic/Judaic ideals but has key differences.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
no Presence is in terms equal to TOAA. He is the entirety. TGEB is the opposite entirety

Not from what ive seen. Yahweh would be equal to TOAA and Presence would be the aspect.

But either way what does it matter.

As I am aware it goes Word/Source/Logoz as aspects and Presence as whole. Yahweh is what we would call God. Yahweh is like the Judaism name for God. Presence is God in DCU and TOAA is God in Marvel.

and in crossovers I always was aware that TOAA and Presence were always equal.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
As I am aware it goes Word/Source/Logoz as aspects and Presence as whole. Yahweh is what we would call God. Yahweh is like the Judaism name for God. Presence is God in DCU and TOAA is God in Marvel.

Nope. In Lucifer Yahweh was talking of all of his work he's performed things we know Presence, Source and other aspects are responsible for. Also when Yahweh left creation, Presence and the other sleft also. In Lucifer it was made quite clear that Yahweh was top and that the likes of Presence and so on were aspects. This was all made clear when Michael and Lucifer gained access to Yahwehs thoughs and he spoke to them.

Yahweh is the equivalent to TOAA as far as has been shown.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
and in crossovers I always was aware that TOAA and Presence were always equal.

What crossovers. Where was that stated or is that just an assumption?

didn't it say like one time in Lucifer that when Micheal was trying to see God his father the angels said it was the Presence. Then they tried to keep him away and he blasted them into bloody oblivion. Left smoking ashes as I am aware.

Spectre in current continuuity is the Logoz, an equal aspect to any of the other aspects of the divine being such as The Word, The Presence and The Source.

And he did defeat the Antimonitor. He didn't kill him, because he wasn't meant to.. But he did banish the anti-monitor back to the anti-matter realm, and shattered and rebuilt reality while doing it. He has done these feats numerous times.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
didn't it say like one time in Lucifer that when Micheal was trying to see God his father the angels said it was the Presence. Then they tried to keep him away and he blasted them into bloody oblivion. Left smoking ashes as I am aware.

Yeah but at the same time Yahweh is the Presence as was made quite clear the issue before what youre talking about and in the same issue.

Yahweh talked about being the father of Michael and Lucifer, he talked of being responsible for creation and many other things. It was made quite clear that the likes of Presence and that were aspects and Yahweh was the supreme being. Its also Yahwehs name thats written into every atom of DC creation not Presences. Yahweh said he was leaving creation and then when Michael went to see Presence he wasnt in the throne room. Presence is a part of Yahweh. Yahweh equals TOAA apparently.

maybe Yahweh is another name of the Presence or vice-versa. Like God, Yahweh, and Allah are in the real world.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
maybe Yahweh is another name of the Presence or vice-versa. Like God, Yahweh, and Allah are in the real world.

The evidence points towards Presence being an aspect as opposed to being the supreme being. Yahweh is shown as being responsible for all othe things we know Presence and the other aspects are responsible for.

Also the Presence by definiton is an aspect anyway represented in creation by the Primum mobile. Just like he is in the comics.