Left v. Right vs. Common Sense

Back when Clinton lied about nailing Monica my opinon of it was that it was lame that he lied about it and kept on standing behind that lie until he was proven wrong. I deeply believed it called his character into question.

When I said that many people cursed at me calling me a republican/ conservative sympathiser.

Nowadays I rail about Bush and his lies (which are definately worse in my opinon but that is not the issue right now) and the right curses me for being a democratic sympathizing lefty.

At what point do members of either party take responsibility, or acknowledge, for their leader or members' irresponsible or deviant actions instead of making excuses and attacking any one who's either just paying attention or trying to respond with common sense?

they never do.
our system of elections is built on the delusion that one side
is pious and perfect, and the other side is satan incarnate.
(given the current administration i would say the later may actually be accurate.)

personally, i dont think in dem/rep. in fact, my suspicion as of late is that in 08 the race will be between hillary and mccain...in which case guess who ill be forced to vote for? and on that day i will be labled a facist righty.

people just don't like to admit they are wrong/incorrect so both sides are the devil!

Originally posted by soleran30
people just don't like to admit they are wrong/incorrect so both sides are the devil!

Bottom line: Lying doesn't exactly help your credibility or the credibility of your supporters and opponents!

Originally posted by botankus
Bottom line: Lying doesn't exactly help your credibility or the credibility of your supporters and opponents!

Yeah, stay your ground...It's the pie in the face thing.. 😱

Originally posted by PVS
they never do.
our system of elections is built on the delusion that one side
is pious and perfect, and the other side is satan incarnate.

Originally posted by FeceMan
whereas the other side is a bunch of intolerant rednecks who hate 'em queers.

well, since bush has managed to alienate moderate republicans and force his party to agree to one principle, it does seem that way doesnt it?

Originally posted by PVS
well, since bush has managed to alienate moderate republicans and force his party to agree to one principle, it does seem that way doesnt it?

Originally posted by FeceMan
No...not really.

PVS JUST GOT PWNED!!!!!!!! 😆 😆 😆

(notice; that was a joke PVS...no harm intended)

I think the two-party system is lame. It is rather unfortunate that people are forced to vote for someone just because they are a Democrate or Republican.

Kharmadog>.........as for your question I'm not really sure... it would seem that the entire purpose of this thread is to bash Bush but what exactly is your opnion on the leadership responsibility?

Originally posted by Echuu
I think the two-party system is lame. It is rather unfortunate that people are forced to vote for someone just because they are a Democrate or Republican.

That's a stupid concept to begin with. I hate to sound like a cliche machine, but you should vote for the person that you think would do the best job.

Originally posted by Echuu
Kharmadog>.........as for your question I'm not really sure... it would seem that the entire purpose of this thread is to bash Bush but what exactly is your opnion on the leadership responsibility?

Originally posted by Echuu
Kharmadog>.........as for your question I'm not really sure... it would seem that the entire purpose of this thread is to bash Bush but what exactly is your opnion on the leadership responsibility?

If you think that the purpose of this thread is to bash bush, I suggest you read my initial post again.

well, since you are questioning politics, then you MUST be bashing bush....and are obviously anti-american....and satan

Originally posted by PVS
well, since you are questioning politics, then you MUST be bashing bush....and are obviously anti-american....and satan

I prefer to be called Beelzebub, it sounds so much cuter and playful.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
If you think that the purpose of this thread is to bash bush, I suggest you read my initial post again.

My experience in these forums is that if a thread is started about Bush it will be to bash him.

Beelzebub 😛

Originally posted by Echuu
My experience in these forums is that if a thread is started about Bush it will be to bash him.

Beelzebub 😛

I have also found that to be true. One day a Dem. will be president and all these Bush bashers will get all bent out of shape when the least little thing is said to taint their god in the white house. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have also found that to be true. One day a Dem. will be president and all these Bush bashers will get all bent out of shape when the least little thing is said to taint their god in the white house. 😆

And there you go proving, though inadvertently, the point of this thread.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have also found that to be true. One day a Dem. will be president and all these Bush bashers will get all bent out of shape when the least little thing is said to taint their god in the white house. 😆

derp

now you resort to projecting

and obviously you have not read the initial post.

must every post of yours be mindless? do you have a use?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
[At what point do members of either party take responsibility, or acknowledge, for their leader or members' irresponsible or deviant actions instead of making excuses and attacking any one who's either just paying attention or trying to respond with common sense? [/B]

The ultimate goal of politicians is to stay in power. Sure they may want or try to do the right things but they can easily justify that instead they need to vote the party line to stay in power so they can do the more important "right things" in the future. So the more they allow their party members or leaders to be criticized or be attacked they know that the result is that the simple public generalizes that everyone in that party is bad and should be voted out of office. It's simply become a self-serving survival process.