Thanos With HOTU vs Phoenix Force

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix is the Big Bang from which everything in Marvel creation is derived.

The CREATION of Multi-Eternity (the MULTI-VERSE)


NO MENTION of PHOENIX!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
It was recently stated that the IG along with the power primordial apparrently derive from the Big Bang.

I challenge you to find that On PANEL.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If the HOTU is an energy source native to 616 then it it too would stem from the Big Bang as 616 is a closed system.

This is just offensive.

Originally posted by rotiart
BAD MONKEY. STOP THROWING POOP AT PEOPLE.

Yes yes... pull out the tazers... but that ugly smelly creature back in its cage.

Ahhhh yes... a world free of worm lace poo handled by the likes a certain galactic monkey.

😆

X....let me break it down for you.

Scan 1:
Here Eternity is explaining to Jean how the Universe works and how it has lead to us....Already proved this many times over...Phoenix is the SPARK that ignites the natural Big Bang of a Universe, which ends life and begins life in said Universe.

Phoenix is NOT the Big Bang and the scan clearly tells us the Celestials SEEDED the Universe with Creation and the Celestial were created by Eternity.

Scan 2:
Ok, here Eternity says, "like Galactus was the sole survivor...so shall Humanity Begin the End, End the Beginning."

NOTHING about Phoenix.

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"...(no need for Phoenix)
"And therein lies the Stranger's conceit"...

Ok, I'm sure you see now that Stranger wants to be able to do..what Humans will be able to do one day.(Which is WHY they are BOWING to HIM in the scan...because one day WE(Humans)will NOT need Abstracts or even LT...they will be as NOTHING to US(Humans).

"He plans to spark Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos."

How does he PLAN to do that?....You said it was with the Phoenix Force Power.

But I think not.

Scan 3 & 4:
The Stranger was going to use 5(FIVE)individuals to accomplish his "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"

Marko, Jean, Iceman, Toad, Mystique.

More Proof it was FIVE individuals the Stranger was going to use to "Spark in Humanity's Evolution Now...to Engulf the cosmos"...NOT Phoenix...NOT PHOENIX AT ALL....Jean didn't even have the Phoenix Force during this time.

"To pluck FIVE representative Earthlings to SERVE as his Evolutionary Vanguards"

notworthy------------------>nono

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix has created an energy matrix that runs through the entire multiverse,

This is a straight up LIE.

Observe everyone:

This is before the Phoenix even came into the picture:

It clearly says 'when a series of interfaces across the Multiverse were aligned, the localized energy fields merged..to Create an Energy Matrix.'

The Energy fields merge ON THEIR OWN...and the Interfaces across the Mulitverse align BY THEMSELVES...

AT the MOMENT of ALIGNMENT, THEN Feron called Phoenix to project the Tower", a less than monumental feat...considering it was the Energy Matrix (ON IT"S OWN) that allowes simultaneous existence in the Multiverse when the Interfaces Across are Aligned, Which Also happens ON it's OWN.....

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix has contained the power of the multiversal reset switch that is the M'Kraan crystal

Another LIE.

On PANEL, WHEN she did it, it was a Universal threat.

Multiversal? Again NOT On Panel.

"An explosion that scatters stellar mass out across a NEW Virgin Universe"
Exactly A UNIVERSE...but NOT a Multiverse.

On Panel it's a Universal threat...

This is a more recent acknowledgment of the Mkraan's capacity.

Besides the FACT that Phoenix needed 8 X-Men to help her do the job, but let's just overlook this....lol.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and Phoenix has amputated an undesirable future timeline

And Thanos ABSORBED ALL of TIME!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
before reforming 616 in the palm of her hand.

In your mind, she "reformed" 616.

ON PANEL, she REPAIRED the DAMGE to an Ophan Universe

AND, it wasn't easy at that.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thanos absorbed a universe before undoing his actions. Doesnt quite add up.

He also Absorbed the Living Tribunal.

Living Tribunal CREATES Universes on a whim and STOPS the Infinity Gauntlet in the middle of an attack, while RECREATING the Abstracts at the same time.

and is TRULY KNOWN as being SECOND ONLY TOAA.

Thanos Absorbed Living Tribunal.

Let's understand what that means.

Absolute RULE over the Infinity Gauntlet.

LT doesn't ALLOW the Gems to work as one, HOW is that NOT overpowering the Gauntlet if it's UPTO HIM for the Gauntlet to have any significance.

"HIs judgement is obviously keeping the GEMS from working together" this isn't control over the IG?

Galactus has to PLEAD to the Living Tribunal to ALLOW the Gauntlet to function.

Since it was Eternity who convinced the Tribunal to rule against the IG, only Eternity now can make the Living Tribunal change his ruling.

Eternity agrees, realizing the impending danger and faints from the shock of power LT releases to power up the IG.

A single phrase uttered by LT actually POWERS UP the Infinity Gauntlet.

The result in an instant

Is RULING OVER the Infinity Gauntlet a big deal?

Infinity Gauntlet handled the Ultimate Nullifier totaly.

Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone

Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.

Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them.
Absolute control..
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.

Is the Ultimate Nullifier a big deal?

The Ultimate Nullifier Destroyed and Recreated the Multi-verse in an instant.

Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.

Finally what does this lead to?
Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.

What was MISALIGNED? The MULTI-VERSE!

How was this done?

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & remake the Multiverse

UN Destroys the Multiverse

UN Remakes the Multiverse in an instant

Let's not foll ouselves this wasn't the Multi-verse.

Living Tribunal stops the Infinity Gauntlet in the middle of an ATTACK that obliterates the Abstracts.

Warlock destroys the hierarchy of representitives, except for LT ofcourse.

With a gesture LT STOPS the IG ATTACK and RECREATES the Abstratcs

LT CREATES a Universe on a whim.

Living Tribunal transforms Silver Surfer into a Universe

STOP!! Haven't you pwned the little boy enough? 🙁

AND after ALL that,

Thanos did this to that majesty:

Thanos takes this blindfolded.

Just to make a few quick quips.

The Infinites (3) have been shown to have the job of aligning the energies of the multiverse. On panel. I think it was an avengers comic.

And I hope that when you think about it, Eternity referring to Oblivion may not be just in the sense of the state, but rather the person. Oblivion is a sibling of Eternity (and Oblivion may even be another facet of death, never proven, but could be) just wondering if you took that into consideration for your posts.

In any case, always good work. I give you an A- because you didn't laugh at my jokes enough! 😛

Originally posted by rotiart
The Infinites (3) have been shown to have the job of aligning the energies of the multiverse.

Actualy, the Infinites rearrange Galaxies, in order to Improve the Flow of their Energies, and the Balance of the Multi-verse.

Originally posted by rotiart
And I hope that when you think about it, Eternity referring to Oblivion may not be just in the sense of the state, but rather the person.

What scan is this from?

btw..I think your very funny and 😎

The oblivion statement is the one you quoted above:

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"

originally i remember there being several "siblings" galactus, oblivion/death, eternity/infinity. whereas eternity/infinity make up all of what is currently space/time... galactus is like the change inbetween things...

oblivion as last referenced, was the person who helped maelstrom in his attempt to destroy the whole universe after maelstrom killed Anomaly.

It reminds me of the UN destroying Multieternity... only to have it recreate itself.. free of abraxas.

Originally posted by rotiart
The oblivion statement is the one you quoted above:

"Oblivion will embrace all...creation will Renew itself"

originally i remember there being several "siblings" galactus, oblivion/death, eternity/infinity. whereas eternity/infinity make up all of what is currently space/time... galactus is like the change inbetween things...

oblivion as last referenced, was the person who helped maelstrom in his attempt to destroy the whole universe after maelstrom killed Anomaly.

It reminds me of the UN destroying Multieternity... only to have it recreate itself.. free of abraxas.

The UN is a part of Galactus.
It is the part of him that exists to maintain the balance between space/time and non-space/time (Infinity and Oblivion).

When you are "hit" by the UN, you are sent to Oblivion's realm.
The Nullifier cannot work on Oblivion (it'd be like trying to drown the ocean), but it can destroy anything from Eternity down (as Oblivion is meant to inherit the universe from Eternity, the UN would obviously have the potential to bring forth that which is pre-ordained).

The Galactus in the 616 is considered or percieved abstract. Thanos body would be wiped out from existence.
An if Thanos uses the reality Gem to undo it, it is useless. Why? the Reality Gem cannot undo what the UN nullifies, because it is no longer reality.

I stated:
The Infinites (3) have been shown to have the job of aligning the energies of the multiverse.

Mr. Master stated:
Actualy, the Infinites rearrange Galaxies, in order to Improve the Flow of their Energies, and the Balance of the Multi-verse

On panel:
We do not defile! We are but rearranging the galaxies – to improve the flow of their energies – and the balance of the multiverse beyond.

I still say they rearrange the energies of the multiverse.

😱
don't hurt me.

Agree to disagree?