Palpatines lightning

Started by overlord2 pages

Originally posted by Numo
No you misunderstood me, it was Sidious who broke the window not Mace but watch it again it was deliberate, but at the time it seemed unnecessary as though he had something plan and I think should all by now be aware of Sidious' ability to plan ahead.
I hate people who bluf their way through arguments. You are making stuff up as you go along. Watch the movie again. You can clearly see the glass falling from Mace his side because his lightsaber goes through it. 😠

And because you ignored my other arguments I assume that you agree that you are over-analysing the movie.

Now you're pissing me off, but nevertheless I decided to give one last chance and I watched it again and I am mystifyed that anyone with intelligence could think that Mace broke the window, but intelligence and you do not belong in the same sentence so I'm not surprised.

Reply this post if you will, you'll only be talking to yourself, I've lost all patience with you...jackass!

Originally posted by Sesse
But Yoda was still no joke...

"If so powerful you are, why leave?"

He didn't forsee this battle, and I guess Palpatine was just afraid of losing his powers like (same felling Darth Plagueis, his master, had). That's why he wanted to leave. He wasn't that scared of Yoda. Proof: After yoda's intervention, Sid just started to fight with yoda without any fear.

Originally posted by Mandos
He didn't forsee this battle, and I guess Palpatine was just afraid of losing his powers like (same felling Darth Plagueis, his master, had). That's why he wanted to leave. He wasn't that scared of Yoda. Proof: After yoda's intervention, Sid just started to fight with yoda without any fear.
Isn't fear one of the attributes which helps the Dark Side along?

Originally posted by Numo
Now you're pissing me off, but nevertheless I decided to give one last chance and I watched it again and I am mystifyed that anyone with intelligence could think that Mace broke the window, but intelligence and you do not belong in the same sentence so I'm not surprised.

Reply this post if you will, you'll only be talking to yourself, I've lost all patience with you...jackass!

You get angry pretty easily, don't you? You can be mystified all you want but I have the scene in slow motion on my computer, get over it, you are wrong, I am right.

but intelligence and you do not belong in the same sentence so I'm not surprised. Look who's talking..
hysterical2

i dont think sidious was afraid of yoda. he had just achieved his master plan that he had been working on for decades, no matter how much better than yoda he is, a stray saber swing, or him losing his footing would make all his work for nothing. you you risk your entire lifes work and being the absolute authoraty of every being within a lifespans reach when it could be lost if your foot slipped and your attention lapsed for a split second? i think not. it wasnt needed for him to fight yoda so he didnt want to. when yoda blocked his enterance he was more than willing to go at it, and win.

Just so one guy knows:

For the record:

Darth Sidious did lose the lightsaber duel against Mace. It was a legitimate duel, and one that he simply did not win. Other than Yoda, Windu is perhaps the greatest Jedi duelist in the movies, and he is leagues above the vast majority of the Jedi. Whereas Windu had 13+ years of actively training with a lightsaber, Sidious was a politician who did not so much as touch his saber for the better part of those 13 years. Thus it is highly obvious Windu had the advantage; but the very fact that Sidious was able to put Windu to the test counts for something. I would have hated to see what the Dark Lord could have done had he trained with his saber as long as Yoda and Mace did.

Sidious faked being weak and helpless. Mace had him at his mercy, and if not for the intervention of Anakin, Windu would have most likely killed the Dark Lord. But, I will say that Sidious took advantage of the scenario when Anakin walked in. In that moment, he then decided to have Anakin kill Mace, and thereby push Anakin to the brink of the Dark Side. At that moment, he manipulated the outcome of the duel.

As for Yoda v. Sidious . . . Most people assume Yoda would've flat out owned Sidious, and I disagree. In my opinion, the Dark Lord and the Grandmaster of the Jedi are both counterpoised and very nearly evenly matched, with Yoda having the only noticeable advantage due to his overwhelming experience as a practitioner of the Force, where Sidious only has a fraction of that time under his own belt. Yes. Sidious did fight against Yoda far more viciously than he did against Mace. But I think that he was not as overconfident as he was with Mace either. All of the Jedi are in awe of Yoda, so it would seem that Palpatine understood that Yoda presented an immense threat to the Empire. Thus, he was not as arrogant as he was with Mace.

This is my own opinion, though.

Originally posted by Delta 62
Sidious completely faked his defeat to Mace. You'll notice how he no-nonsense took care of the other three Masters..he was simply stalling most of the time with Mace.

Hmm, that whole thought that Sidious was holding back because he went through the other Jedi so quickly and then wasn't faring so well with Windu... just all sorts of silly. Sidious was clearly good enough to dispatch three Jedi quite easily, so such skill is not unprecedented. We had never, up to that point, seen Mace Windu fight. Thus all these circumstances prove is that Sidious did not fare as well against Mace as he did against the others. Now, if it was established that he was an equal to the other three with a lightsaber there would be something to this theory, or if there was any particular evidence that Sideous was holding back. Neither is the case: Mace may have been able to kill three Jedi just as easily as Sideous, but obviously he doesn't go around fighting his own people. So all we can say is that the two fought and Mace won. Anything else is just useless and unsupported hypothesis.
Palpatine was fighting plenty fiercely: did the hissing and snarling not make it apparent?