Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Is it possible for a damn MONKEY to "evolve" into something reminiscent of a MAN?” the answer is no.
Than how can they be related..where is the common link..lets move on to the next question.
A monkey is a modern animal and so are humans. There was a time long ago when humans and monkeys did not exist; at that time there was a different animal that lived on the Earth. That animal is now extinct but its descendants have continued to change slowly over time and due to environmental adaptation have become monkeys, apes, and humans. [/B]
What you do not understand is that what you have mentioned above is a belief only.
This belief is not supported by the fossil record.
It has been proven time and time again that mutations found in nature are not beneficial, thus defeating the whole "macro evolutionary" argument.
To put even more nails in the coffin..the process has not been observed, and there is no method to even test this so called "scientific" theory...
So why then is it classified as being scientific?
Because the scientific movement is currently being overrun by a bunch of Dogmatists who ascribe to the religion of Humanistic Naturalism. That's really where the problem lies in a nutshell.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Than how can they be related..where is the common link..lets move on to the next question.What you do not understand is that what you have mentioned above is a belief only.
This belief is not supported by the fossil record.
It has been proven time and time again that mutations found in nature are not beneficial, thus defeating the whole "macro evolutionary" argument.
To put even more nails in the coffin..the process has not been observed, and there is no method to even test this so called "scientific" theory...
So why then is it classified as being scientific?
Because the scientific movement is currently being overrun by a bunch of Dogmatists who ascribe to the religion of Humanistic Naturalism. That's really where the problem lies in a nutshell.
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That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Please go to collage and learn something on the subject. I don’t have time to teach you the fundamentals of evolution.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Please go to collage and learn something on the subject. I don’t have time to teach you the fundamentals of evolution.
College? Try freshman biology in high school.
I'd like to refute his ridiculous claims further, but I have classes to get to.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
[B]😆That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Please go to collage and learn something on the subject. I don’t have time to teach you the fundamentals of evolution.
Do you want me to use paper mache, construction paper, or something else to create the collage?..😆😆
Dink doesn't even know how to spell "college"..lol..and he speaks of my ignorance...😆😆
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆That is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Please go to collage and learn something on the subject. I don’t have time to teach you the fundamentals of evolution.
i think whob's loopy and infinate posts are more intended to flood, overwhelm, and cause the opponent to lose energy and interest, rather than actually trying to convince anyone of anything. the "tireless rebutter" if you will.
shaky...mispellings just happen, and i normally wouldnt say anything...
but twice you spelled it "collage" and its spelled "college".
"collage" is arts and crafts related.
the irony of ridiculing someone and insisting they seek
education, and not knowing how to spell the word for that
particular institution...wow...mindblowing 😑
Originally posted by PVS
i think whob's loopy and infinate posts are more intended to flood, overwhelm, and cause the opponent to lose energy and interest, rather than actually trying to convince andyone of anything. the "tireless rebutter" if you will.shaky...mispellings just happen, and im normally wouldnt say anything...
but twice you spelled it "collage" and its spelled "college".
"collage" is arts and crafts related.the irony of ridiculing someone and insisting they seek
education, and not knowing how to spell the word for that
particular institution...wow...mindblowing 😑
The point of this post is merely to attack please contribute to the discussion PVS - I would be interested to hear your views 🙂
Re: Evolution vs Intelligent Design...
Originally posted by Darth Revan
Moderator: We're here today to debate the hot new topic, evolution versus Intelligent Des...(Scientist pulls out baseball bat.)
Moderator: Hey, what are you doing?
(Scientist breaks Intelligent Design advocate's kneecap.)
Intelligent Design advocate: YEAAARRRRGGGHHHH! YOU BROKE MY KNEECAP!
Scientist: Perhaps it only appears that I broke your kneecap. Certainly, all the evidence points to the hypothesis I broke your kneecap. For example, your kneecap is broken; it appears to be a fresh wound; and I am holding a baseball bat, which is spattered with your blood. However, a mere preponderance of evidence doesn't mean anything. Perhaps your kneecap was designed that way. Certainly, there are some features of the current situation that are inexplicable according to the "naturalistic" explanation you have just advanced, such as the exact contours of the excruciating pain that you are experiencing right now.
Intelligent Design advocate: AAAAH! THE PAIN!
Scientist: Frankly, I personally find it completely implausible that the random actions of a scientist such as myself could cause pain of this particular kind. I have no precise explanation for why I find this hypothesis implausible -- it just is. Your knee must have been designed that way!
Intelligent Design advocate: YOU BASTARD! YOU KNOW YOU DID IT!
Scientist: I surely do not. How can we know anything for certain? Frankly, I think we should expose people to all points of view. Furthermore, you should really re-examine whether your hypothesis is scientific at all: the breaking of your kneecap happened in the past, so we can't rewind and run it over again, like a laboratory experiment. Even if we could, it wouldn't prove that I broke your kneecap the previous time. Plus, let's not even get into the fact that the entire universe might have just popped into existence right before I said this sentence, with all the evidence of my alleged kneecap-breaking already pre-formed.
Intelligent Design advocate: That's a load of bullshit sophistry! Get me a doctor and a lawyer, not necessarily in that order, and we'll see how that plays in court!
Scientist (turning to audience): And so we see, ladies and gentlemen, when push comes to shove, advocates of Intelligent Design do not actually believe any of the arguments that they profess to believe. When it comes to matters that hit home, they prefer evidence, the scientific method, testable hypotheses, and naturalistic explanations. In fact, they strongly privilege naturalistic explanations over supernatural hocus-pocus or metaphysical wankery. It is only within the reality-distortion field of their ideological crusade that they give credence to the flimsy, ridiculous arguments which we so commonly see on display. I must confess, it kind of felt good, for once, to be the one spouting free-form bullshit; it's so terribly easy and relaxing, compared to marshaling rigorous arguments backed up by empirical evidence. But I fear that if I were to continue, then it would be habit-forming, and bad for my soul. Therefore, I bid you adieu.
Absolutely stupid. 'Let's bash a guy in the kneecap and make our arguments when he is in terrible pain so he won't be able to reply!'
And by the way...Shouldn't this thread belong in the Evolution thread?
Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
whobdamandog
Can you breifly explain to me what you believe... I'm a little lost in this thread now as to who said what about whom...In simple english and in a paragraph explain how I came to be...
Thanks
Could you please answer this...
Also I would be interested to hear whirlys views please...
Originally posted by Lana
College? Try freshman biology in high school.I'd like to refute his ridiculous claims further, but I have classes to get to.
Yes..when you get to the "Collage" Lana my dear..please make sure you attempt to register for a remedial English class...😆
Okay moving on..PVS..do you want to actually attempt to refute any points..or are you just going to continue your role as forum "hack" throughout this thread?
Originally posted by whobdamandog
PVS..do you want to actually attempt to refute any points..or are you just going to continue your role as forum "hack" throughout this thread?
Whilst I disagree with you on your point of view on Evolution - I would also like to see PVS explain his understanding of Evolution. 🙂
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Okay moving on..PVS..do you want to actually attempt to refute any points..or are you just going to continue your role as forum "hack" throughout this thread?
i dont debate with tireless rebutters. maybe ush has the time to shoot down every single benign point you pull out of your derier, but i have not the time nor the patience, and if i did i would write a novel rather than waste time with you.
and since whirley is just oh-so-interested in my views (which i already stated in a duplicate thread) here it is:
Originally posted by PVS
its just a way to sneak the bible through the back door and discredit science.
the title "intelligent design" is just a cover and the majority of what will be taught is creationism, of coarse with a token day of class dedicated to teaching the beliefs of heathen religions.its bullshit and belongs in religion, western civilisation, whatever class that is NOT science. its just more bible beating B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
i think its possible that there is a higher form of intelligence which set the universe in motion, be it 'god' or whatever. but the idea that there is an invisible man who sits in the clouds and dictates every animal made is a joke.
ID seems to only thrive on exploiting the many mysteries, holes, and unanswered questions in evolution, and saying "god did that, probably...since you cant prove otherwise yet".
no study, no theory, just the endless pursuit for flaws in a theory and then the assumption that because of those flaws--only expected since the evidence is so scarce--then its all rubish and it must have been god.