Evolution vs Intelligent Design...

Originally posted by whobdamandog
AWSOME..a convert..that means that I have to post one more before I go to bed...This one is dedicated to you Great Vengeance..(and I don't mean this in a negative way)

So, FIN plus one, two,three, four, five, six, seven, etc....

Plus the fact that once again, you assume that anyone that supports your POV is supporting you, personally. Where did he state such a thing? Not once, nor has anyone else....you're just sad. No one likes you, not even the people who agree with you. You're a panty waste.

You know, I really have to question if you realize that more than one person looks at your posts at any given time. You know, everyone can see what you write...not just the person with whom you're arguing.

Originally posted by Lana
No one is saying there's anything wrong with the idea of creationism/ID in itself. Trying to claim it as science, though, IS, as it's blatantly not and anyone who's gotten further than high school biology should know that.

Whob, I have a challenge for you. The one and ONLY way you could ever have evidence for ID is if you have evidence that such a higher being exists. Without staggering proof of this, ID holds no water whatsoever. So go and find this evidence.

And I find it quite ironic that you dare to tell other people that they are avoiding something when you yourself are probably the largest dodger this entire site has ever seen.

Proof is only real to the people who accept something as being a proof.

Science is just as much a belief in assumptions and evidence as religion and faith. What is true to a person is what he actually experience as truth. Everything is relative, non-absolute and conditional; therefor there is no absolute evidence.

Whob. kinda pathetic that you have to declare victory or post your own "ownage" pictures. You see, you do that in order to feel that you hvae accomplished something.

Whereas I pointed out exactly where you lied, and distorted information, yet you still have not fessed upt to it.

You pick out my posts where I say that birds and Reptiles are not related and that generally scientists believe that birds evolved from therapods (dinosaurs).

You have pointed out that technically birds eveolved from reptiles because reptiles evovled from dinosaurs, ergo Birds evolved from reptiles. I'll concede that point, by that logic we can also say that all mammals evolved from reptiles also. But my main point was that birds evolved directly from dinos as opposed to the very long lineage that orginally started with the first amoebas to the first multicelled animals to the first fish to the first amphibians to the first reptiles to the first dinosaurs to the first birds.

I can concede the technicality you arre arguing.

Now will you concede that you are a liar who distortrd information to try to prove his point? Probably not.

All the posing and posturing in the world is not going to hide the fact that you are an insecure person who tries to get affirmation on an internet forum who is willing to lie to try to prove themselves.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Fine, collect all your lies, half truths and bullshit posts AND provided links, into one email, PM, post(all my info is on my profile)...and I'll point out every single bullshit biased opinion you've posted. Since you know you've spread your bullshit over a half dozen threads on the topic, that it's easier for you to say "tell me where I've lied"...than to just admit that you make shit up...and present facts from bible thumping websites like dino-extinction.com to support your POV. So, if you think I'm affraid to point out your bullshit lies...the words of others you've twisted in to bullshit so-called mistakes and etc, please...collect them all in one easy to view shitheap and I will. But, since you are on the bottom of the pile, gasping for air, not only in my view...but in practically all others...then you have the burden of providing all your relevant-to-topic posts

You certainly have an incredible interest in shit Camptain...Perhaps that's why you get along with Feceman so well..😆😆

Moving on..as you all have stated to me multiple times..

"The burdon of proof" is on you. Point out where the distortions are..and I'll happily debate them with you. I've already shot down Picador's accusation..I'd enjoy shooting down a few more..

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Whereas I pointed out exactly where you lied, and distorted information, yet you still have not fessed upt to it.

You pointed out how ignorant you were...once again. Birds are indeed believed by many to have evolved from reptiles. I'm glad you gave me the opportunity to educate you.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
I can concede the technicality you arre arguing.

So you are "technically" conceeding to the fact that I was right and you were wrong. Thank you..then we no longer have to continue this whole bird/dino/reptile discussion..

I think this final quote sums up the rest of the tripe that you've posted..

Originally posted by KharmaDog
All the posing and posturing in the world is not going to hide the fact that you are an insecure person who tries to get affirmation on an internet forum who is willing to lie to try to prove themselves.

Well stated Picador. I believe that's an argument that we can both agree upon..😆 😆

and still you have not addressed the calling out of your forgery. 🙄

instead we are forced to witness this childlike defense mechanism.
its endless flood posts of "i was right HAHAHAHAAHA!!!! you were OWNED HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!! OWNED!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! YOU'RE STUPID!!! HAHAHAHAA"

I'm waiting for a "Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis?"

Originally posted by Wonderer
Science is just as much a belief in assumptions and evidence as religion and faith.

This is the only thing that I agree with you about. However contrary to what you believe..there are absolutes that exist within life.

The ability one has to make the statement "There are no facts in Science"

Represents the existence of "absolutes" in life

How the hell can you make a statement..if the ability to make a statement doesn't exist..and is not 100% believed to be true!!

These Dinks just don't seem to realize that with every word they spit out..they convict themselves..the speak in contradictions..and are to damn indoctrinated with these lies to even recognize the "truth" anymore..quite sad really. I truly hope they do get something meaningful out of this thread, As I stated before..the whole "Survival of the fittest, everyman for himself" religious doctrine..leads to a very gloomy conclusion.

Originally posted by PVS
and still you have not addressed the calling out of your forgery. 🙄

instead we are forced to witness this childlike defense mechanism.
its endless flood posts of "i was right HAHAHAHAAHA!!!! you were OWNED HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!! OWNED!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! YOU'RE STUPID!!! HAHAHAHAA"

So dodger..are you ready to debate..or just mindlessly troll and make false allegations. I've already refuted Picador's allegation..but you are to damn dense to understand anything that I posted. So let's get to the valid topic at hand...that being Evolution/Intelligent Design.

I want you to point out the problems with my arguments regarding Evolution dodger. If you have the ability to do so.

you fixed a quote and you know it.
and that you never addressed.
your credibility is shot to hell because of the forgery
you refuse to acknowledge rather pathetically
with all the "OWNED" nonesense.

'dodger' indeed 😬

Originally posted by PVS
you fixed a quote and you know it.
and that you never addressed.
your credibility is shot to hell because of the forgery
you refuse to acknowledge rather pathetically
with all the "OWNED" nonesense.

'dodger' indeed 😬

As I surmised..more false allegations/attempts to damage credibility..and another demonstration of the inability to even adress the topic at hand. Truly pathetic my friend.

ok tireless rebutter, believe what you will.
just keep telling yourself you never did it.

just to be on the safe side though, maybe you
should declare victory again and flood the forum
with more 'owned' pics. that should do the trick.

Originally posted by PVS
ok tireless rebutter, believe what you will.
just keep telling yourself you never did it.

just to be on the safe side though, maybe you
should declare victory again and flood the forum
with more 'owned' pics. that should do the trick.

🙄 not needed

Originally posted by whobdamandog
You certainly have an incredible interest in [b]shit Camptain...Perhaps that's why you get along with Feceman so well..😆😆

Moving on..as you all have stated to me multiple times..

"The burdon of proof" is on you. Point out where the distortions are..and I'll happily debate them with you. I've already shot down Picador's accusation..I'd enjoy shooting down a few more.. [/B]

But, see, that's where the whole "mentally unbalanced" part comes into play. As for the burden of proof, all you need to do is look at every post I've made in response to one of your fruitless lies. If you want me to jump through your hoop, and prove you wrong, then jump through mine and collect all your bullshit into one post or email and I'll do it for you. Otherwise, you haven't got the balls...

As for shit, yeah...you're right. Everytime I see one of your posts, I think of shit.

And, I believe "Camptain" is Whirlysplatts insult...and you accuse others of not being able to think for themselves?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
But, see, that's where the whole "mentally unbalanced" part comes into play. As for the burden of proof, all you need to do is look at every post I've made in response to one of your fruitless lies. If you want me to jump through your hoop, and prove you wrong, then jump through mine and collect all your bullshit into one post or email and I'll do it for you. Otherwise, you haven't got the balls...

As for shit, yeah...you're right. Everytime I see one of your posts, I think of shit.

And, I believe "Camptain" is Whirlysplatts insult...and you accuse others of not being able to think for themselves?

It was my insult but I have turned over a new leaf and I am now trying to be seen as the peacemaker of the forum.

Are you just going to keep ignoring this, whob? Along with everything else you're ignoring?

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I just love how you left out the more important part of my post, in a perfect demonstration of your quote-distorting properties...

"Second, the point is not whether birds are descended from reptiles, but the fact that you mangled the information by quoting only certain parts of the page, and presenting it as if they were written one on top of the other."

That's actually (by my count) the second time you've done that with my posts in this thread alone. The other one, I believe, you completely ignored.

Anyways, that's the second time you've been caught misquoting some source on this page alone. Nobody's buying your crap-tastic brand of O'Reilly-style debating. Is there some reason why you left out that bit of my post?

There's nothing more to this debate..seeing as how I've already asserted all my points. Good luck to you my friends..I truly do hope that you change your views about what "truth" represents.

Fin

was that fin #14 or fin #15?

i lost track

Whob - stop flooding the thread with irrelevant spam posts, and cut the name calling. Either post on topic and civilly, or don't at all.

Originally posted by Lana
Whob - stop flooding the thread with irrelevant spam posts, and cut the name calling. Either post on topic and civilly, or don't at all.

Wit all due respect Lana I think a number of posters on this thread are engaging in name calling and less than adult behaviour. I think this thread is going nowhere as it has nowhere to go.