Well, I'm gonna be honest. MJ has been played well to character in the movies, and I'm not the type to fuss over hair color. They kill her, there go a lot of viewers. Sony isn't that ballsy. Also, lest we forget, Gwen was the more whorrish. If MJ died, Spidey wouldn't touch Gwen. However, it may turn him into an anti-hero.
Obviously you only know Gwen Stacy from the ultimate comics because in the original amazing spiderman comics she was nice kind and sweet all the time to people.and what are you talking about? Mj has been played horribly by Dunst in the movies,she has been hardly anything at all like the mary jane from the comics.the mj from the comics was a stuck up,wild party animal and airhead.a total b!tch most the time.Thats not who we have seen in these movies. 🙄
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Obviously you only know Gwen Stacy from the ultimate comics because in the original amazing spiderman comics she was nice kind and sweet all the time to people.and what are you talking about? Mj has been played horribly by Dunst in the movies,she has been hardly anything at all like the mary jane from the comics.the mj from the comics was a stuck up,wild party animal and airhead.a total b!tch most the time.Thats not who we have seen in these movies. 🙄
even in the 90s animated series MJ had the right personality and stuff. the MTV series im not so sure
They've really trashed Gwen's memory in recent years... whistling
http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/fun.pl?date=20041025
http://www.spiderfan.org/cgi-bin/fun.pl?date=20041018
Okay, I'm just gonna put this out there. Gwen Stacey f*cked Norman Osbourne. Yeah, real innocent. MJ may not be a saint, but at least she was honest. Also, Sony's Spider-Man isn't that bad, consider it isn't Sony's. It's Raimi's depiction. Man-Spider? Did you forget that the Man-Spider was Spider-Man when he turned into a spider? Don't tell me what I know and don't know about the comics, because you obviously can't back up your claims.
People like Mr. Parker depict the Sony movies as Man-Spider because the movies focus more on the "loseretic" life of Peter Parker than Spider-Man.
Movies such as Batman Begins focus on Batman more than Wayne, because it focused on how Batman came to be. On Spider-Man's case, they focused more on Mary Jane than GG and Ock.
But even though, I still love 'em! 😉
Originally posted by Silverstein
even in the 90s animated series MJ had the right personality and stuff. the MTV series im not so sure
correction Silverstein.That was one of quite a few things I did not like about the 90's spidey show.Dont get me wrong,I love the 90's toon,its the most accurate spidey version we have onscreen so far,much closer and much more loyal and faithful to the comicbook than those horrible man-spider movies are but it could have been much much better because unlike the batman animated series,it was not loyal to the comic either in quite a few respects.Kingpin was in almost every damn episode and spideys major villains like green goblin and doc ock were lackeys working for kingpin,I mean can you imiagine the 90s batman cartoon having two face be the jokers lackey? oh the horror.I can go on and on with how they messed that show up as well just like the movies but that would take to long.but my point is,in that show,they made her nice and kind as well and not the stuck up b!tch,wild party girl and airhead from the comics.rewatch the toon sometime and you will see what I am talking about.damn why the hell cant hollywood ever get mary janes character properly portrayed on the screen!!!!! the bastards. 😠 dont even get me started on the mtv one,I watched about 3 or 4 episodes of that show and its as horrible as the movies. 😘
Originally posted by Tekno Boy
Oh Yeah, sure. Kill Mary Jane. Great idea. While you're at it turn Jameson into Wolverine and have Zippy from Rainbow make a guest appearance. 🙄Come on. They wouldn't do that. That's just absolutely stupid. It's already nuts with them introducing Gwen Stacy at this stage.
hey why not? these movies have butchered to death many of the great characters from the films already,killing mary jane would be one of the few things they would be doing right that should have been done in the amazing spiderman comics if they were going to kill off a girl of petes. 🙄
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Okay, I'm just gonna put this out there. Gwen Stacey f*cked Norman Osbourne. Yeah, real innocent. MJ may not be a saint, but at least she was honest. Also, Sony's Spider-Man isn't that bad, consider it isn't Sony's. It's Raimi's depiction. Man-Spider? Did you forget that the Man-Spider was Spider-Man when he turned into a spider? Don't tell me what I know and don't know about the comics, because you obviously can't back up your claims.
as I said,maybe it happened in those crappy Ultimate spiderman comics that I tried to read but could not get past because of how they messed up gwens chaaracter in that comic,now her doing that to him in THAT comic,I would not doubt,but never in the history of the true amazing spiderman comic from issue 1 to 300 did that ever happen,read through them and you will know that. 🙄 AGAIN,I have no doubt it probably happened in that horrible ultimate comic,but it never happened in AMAZING.got that? you are obviously thinking of when Miles warren who was the jackel who also wore a green costume similiar looking to GG did it with gwen,and it was a CLONE of gwen stacy,it wasnt the REAL gwen stacy.got that?good. now stop assuming I cant back up my claims,that would be YOU.yeah Raimi is as big an idiot when it comes to spiderman movies as burton is when it comes to batman movies.by the way,I hate the burton batman movies with a passion is much as I do the man-spider movies,thats obvious,but the REASON I never refer to them as man-bat is because unlike the spiderman movies,they did not alter Bruce waynes physiology like they did in the spiderman movies.these movies butchered to death his character and made him into a mutant by giving him organics.thats why he is man-spider.chemical webbing=spider-man,organics=man-spider. Now if they went and had bruce wayne have wings coming out of his back,then he would be man-bat like peter is man-spider. 😄 class dismissed,now you can go home and tell all your friends you learned something for the day. 😄
Actually Mr. Parker, from what I've heard, it happened in the 616 continuity. Don't ask me where, I think whoever wrote it was on an acid trip or something.
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/509.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/510.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/511.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/512.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/513.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/514.html
It was apparently horrible even beyond the defiling of Gwen's memory and best never mentioned again.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
as I said,maybe it happened in those crappy Ultimate spiderman comics that I tried to read but could not get past because of how they messed up gwens chaaracter in that comic,now her doing that to him in THAT comic,I would not doubt,but never in the history of the true amazing spiderman comic from issue 1 to 300 did that ever happen,read through them and you will know that. 🙄 AGAIN,I have no doubt it probably happened in that horrible ultimate comic,but it never happened in AMAZING.got that? you are obviously thinking of when Miles warren who was the jackel who also wore a green costume similiar looking to GG did it with gwen,and it was a CLONE of gwen stacy,it wasnt the REAL gwen stacy.got that?good. now stop assuming I cant back up my claims,that would be YOU.yeah Raimi is as big an idiot when it comes to spiderman movies as burton is when it comes to batman movies.by the way,I hate the burton batman movies with a passion is much as I do the man-spider movies,thats obvious,but the REASON I never refer to them as man-bat is because unlike the spiderman movies,they did not alter Bruce waynes physiology like they did in the spiderman movies.these movies butchered to death his character and made him into a mutant by giving him organics.thats why he is man-spider.chemical webbing=spider-man,organics=man-spider. Now if they went and had bruce wayne have wings coming out of his back,then he would be man-bat like peter is man-spider. 😄 class dismissed,now you can go home and tell all your friends you learned something for the day. 😄
Look at the above posts, moron. Lesson learned. 😆
So, now let's get to the truth of the matter. Gwen had twins with Osbourne. Being the psycho he is, he killed her after they broke up. Why am I not suprised? Because I know that Marvel has the tendency to be a darker universe, and bad stuff happens. Also, the Jackal didn't have kids with his Gwen clone you idiot, and I really don't care much for Ultimate Spider Man, because Bendis has a hard time hitting a good mark. So, now that you've proved my point that you know absolutely nothing about the comics, you can go back to your friends and tell them that you learned something today. The Spider-Man movies may not be 100% dead on, but it could be worse. The guy who directed Catwoman could have done it. *shivers* So, here's the conclusions.
1)You have no grounds for your claims, and your "Man-Spider" idea doesn't even make a lick of sense. You just randomly said it one day, and thought you were right.
2)Organics really aren't that big of a deal. Although it added some troubles for Spidey when he ran out of webbing, the web-shooters weren't that big of a deal. If you want a man-spider, Evolve or Die is much closer. Complain about that.
3) Read the whole "Sins Past" storyline. The writing is great up until the last issue, and deepens the conflict between Osbourne and Spidey. It stinks that Gwen's a ****, but I saw the potential a while back. C'est la vie. I mean, Black Cat is a rape victim, and nobody fusses over that. So, you don't like a few movies. Nobody cares. Do something about it if you can, but if you can't, shut the hell up. Also, learn some grammar.
I know my comics. Too bad nobody can say the same for you.
nopity The violin is playing for you.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Look at the above posts, moron. Lesson learned. 😆
So, now let's get to the truth of the matter. Gwen had twins with Osbourne. Being the psycho he is, he killed her after they broke up. Why am I not suprised? Because I know that Marvel has the tendency to be a darker universe, and bad stuff happens. Also, the Jackal didn't have kids with his Gwen clone you idiot, and I really don't care much for Ultimate Spider Man, because Bendis has a hard time hitting a good mark. So, now that you've proved my point that you know absolutely nothing about the comics, you can go back to your friends and tell them that you learned something today. The Spider-Man movies may not be 100% dead on, but it could be worse. The guy who directed Catwoman could have done it. *shivers* So, here's the conclusions.
1)You have no grounds for your claims, and your "Man-Spider" idea doesn't even make a lick of sense. You just randomly said it one day, and thought you were right.
2)Organics really aren't that big of a deal. Although it added some troubles for Spidey when he ran out of webbing, the web-shooters weren't that big of a deal. If you want a man-spider, Evolve or Die is much closer. Complain about that.
3) Read the whole "Sins Past" storyline. The writing is great up until the last issue, and deepens the conflict between Osbourne and Spidey. It stinks that Gwen's a ****, but I saw the potential a while back. C'est la vie. I mean, Black Cat is a rape victim, and nobody fusses over that. So, you don't like a few movies. Nobody cares. Do something about it if you can, but if you can't, shut the hell up. Also, learn some grammar.
I know my comics. Too bad nobody can say the same for you.
nopity The violin is playing for you.
I'm with Marcus on this one
Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
As explained in the joke links, it was in Straczynski's "Sins Past" retcon that made Gwen the mother of twins by Norman Osborn-- Marvel's attempt at putting life back into the Goblin legacy.http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/509.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/510.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/511.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/512.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/513.html
http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_amazing/514.htmlIt was apparently horrible even beyond the defiling of Gwen's memory and best never mentioned again.
Well that doesnt count for his argument because only the events that happened in amazing spiderman from her first appearance to issue 129 when she died -I believe it was,count so he loses. 😄 what some idiot writer decides to come up with LONGGGGGGG after she died who all of a sudden decides to butcher gwens character,none of that counts,only the storys and events that occured while she was alive through amazing spiderman are what counts.wow what a lame argument he had.That would be like saying in issue 650 or so,LONGGGG after norman died,that whilke he was alive up top issue 129, fathered some children from liz allen while he was alive,it wouldnt count,only the events that happened in amazing spiderman from his first appearance to issue 129 count. and oh by the way Venom girl,I think your only partially correct on stan lee and the gwen stacy death story,your correct that the story occured when he was out of town for business at the time,but I remember reading over the years that he didnt approve of it,that the story happened unbeknowest to him and that he was mad about it when he later learned about it.Im pretty sure I remember reading that a few times over the years.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Look at the above posts, moron. Lesson learned. 😆
So, now let's get to the truth of the matter. Gwen had twins with Osbourne. Being the psycho he is, he killed her after they broke up. Why am I not suprised? Because I know that Marvel has the tendency to be a darker universe, and bad stuff happens. Also, the Jackal didn't have kids with his Gwen clone you idiot, and I really don't care much for Ultimate Spider Man, because Bendis has a hard time hitting a good mark. So, now that you've proved my point that you know absolutely nothing about the comics, you can go back to your friends and tell them that you learned something today. The Spider-Man movies may not be 100% dead on, but it could be worse. The guy who directed Catwoman could have done it. *shivers* So, here's the conclusions.
1)You have no grounds for your claims, and your "Man-Spider" idea doesn't even make a lick of sense. You just randomly said it one day, and thought you were right.
2)Organics really aren't that big of a deal. Although it added some troubles for Spidey when he ran out of webbing, the web-shooters weren't that big of a deal. If you want a man-spider, Evolve or Die is much closer. Complain about that.
3) Read the whole "Sins Past" storyline. The writing is great up until the last issue, and deepens the conflict between Osbourne and Spidey. It stinks that Gwen's a ****, but I saw the potential a while back. C'est la vie. I mean, Black Cat is a rape victim, and nobody fusses over that. So, you don't like a few movies. Nobody cares. Do something about it if you can, but if you can't, shut the hell up. Also, learn some grammar.
I know my comics. Too bad nobody can say the same for you.
nopity The violin is playing for you.
name calling will get you banned around here dude,they dont tolerate that,knock it off with that and the insults or I'll report you.and just because you dont have any logic and common sense and cant distinguish spiderman from man-spider doesnt mean I am any of those names you call me.the violin is playing. 😛
Hey, Nimrod! Is it in the book? Oh, I guess that it happened! Get over it! Oh, no, I didn't like the story idea, so I'm gonna say something like "it doesn't count" or something like that. You sound like a twelve year old who just lost a game to his big brother, and is complaining that somebody cheated. Wait a minute, you probably are twelve! Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it unreal. Sometimes writers do crazy stuff. Here's a list:
Venom is Mac Gargan
Carnage got ripped in half
Colossus is Gay in Ultimate X-Men
Gwen Stacy was a ****
Black Cat is a rape victim
As much as it is wierd, and possibly unlikely, it's still there. Get over it. As for the argument, once again, you've proven to everybody that YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT THE COMIC BOOKS!
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Everybody is laughing at you. Here's a bit of advice: don't start arguments with people who are smarter than you.