Technology issues

But 6,000 years ago, there was no plate armor! And a Sidewinder is deemed a magical weapon, most effective when the Nazgûl fly with their large birds. Because all explosive charges in Middle-Earth are considered as magical. The gunpowder explosion at Helm's Deep is dismissed as magic in the book.

silliest...

thread...

everrrr....

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
But 6,000 years ago, there was no plate armor! And a Sidewinder is deemed a magical weapon, most effective when the Nazgûl fly with their large birds. Because all explosive charges in Middle-Earth are considered as magical. The gunpowder explosion at Helm's Deep is dismissed as magic in the book.

Magic doesn't kill the Nazgûl, only Merry's sword which was made to kill the Wicth-King could break the spell over the Lord of the Nazgûl.

Forget the Nazgûl. But still, mûmakil can be killed by bazooka fire or Grond might be made unable to move, if not destroyed, by rail guns.

How about.............you shut up now

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
Forget the Nazgûl. But still, mûmakil can be killed by bazooka fire or Grond might be made unable to move, if not destroyed, by rail guns.

Basically, they might have spent 3,000 years (at the battle of Dagorlad, both sides had everything best of pre-gunpowder technology) and basically, there are two new technologies: gunpowder (way below today's standards) and cloning (higher than today's technology). I thought that 3,000 years would give them enough technology not to rely on mûmakil or wood-made ships, in such a case, the Umbar Pirates would instead attack Minas Tirith with New Jersey-class-like battleships OR aircraft carriers. Or Rohan would use B-2s to bomb down Barad-Dûr. Or better still, the Oathbreakers would have M1s to fight back Mordor.

Let's see. Mankin on Earth has been around for what? A few million years and they were around on Middle-Earth like what a few thousand?

Don't foget that before the First Age it was Middle-Earth prehistory, so Middle-Earth might also have been around for millions of years.

What is your point here? Stop being so anoying and go back to what hole you crawled out from (it sounds mean but your annoying the hell out of all of us!!)

Originally posted by DanielLB
What is your point here? Stop being so anoying and go back to what hole you crawled out from (it sounds mean but your annoying the hell out of all of us!!)

I meant that if Middle-Earth prehistory was about a few millions of years too (assuming it's on a class-M planet that followed the same kind of evolution as Earth) maybe Middle-Earth technology would be, by 3018 T.A., at BEST at our level, if we assume first that in 3441 S.A. the technology was the best of pre-gunpowder era. At worse, it would be in the early days of gunpowder.

Take that technology bull**** some place else because it is not wanted in Middle-Earth.

Originally posted by Shadow x 20
Take that technology bull**** some place else because it is not wanted in Middle-Earth.

Can somebody explain it to me in further detail as to why do science/technology issues wouldn't be discussed here? Or as to why would technology wouldn't have any place in Middle-Earth?

I thought since it was solely for LOTR, that would go in there.

LOTR is fantasy/ficition! Do you see gunpowder/guns/explosives in any other fantasy film. For example: LOTR....no...theres magic
Harry Potter......no.....theres magic
Nania....no.....theres magic
SW.....yes.....BUT IS SCIFI!
the wizard of oz....no.......adventure and weirdness in this film...BUT NO GUNS!
king kong..........no gunpowder...
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs......absolotly no guns!

You get our point?

lol....this is just amusing....

Indeed....but very annoying 😄

Originally posted by DanielLB
LOTR is fantasy/ficition! Do you see gunpowder/guns/explosives in any other fantasy film. For example: LOTR....no...theres magic
Harry Potter......no.....theres magic
Nania....no.....theres magic
SW.....yes.....BUT IS SCIFI!
the wizard of oz....no.......adventure and weirdness in this film...BUT NO GUNS!
king kong..........no gunpowder...
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs......absolotly no guns!

You get our point?

I saw LOTR actuallyusing gunpowder, in Helm's Deep (The Two Towers).
King Kong, it is based in New York of the 1930's or 1940's. There were guns in that era.
Godzilla (the very first one): killed by napalm, which is more advanced than gunpowder.

Originally posted by Twilight Janick
I saw LOTR actuallyusing gunpowder, in Helm's Deep (The Two Towers).
King Kong, it is based in New York of the 1930's or 1940's. There were guns in that era.
Godzilla (the very first one): killed by napalm, which is more advanced than gunpowder.

Its not gunpowder...you might want to look a bit closer!

King Kong fair enough but i said no gunpowder😛

Godzilla......thats a crap film anyway!

and it was set in our time wasnt it 😖

LOTR is unique because of its technology advances. Two during the Third Age, cloning and gunpowder. Gunpowder is used here as an explosive.

But what was used at Helm's Deep to blow up part of the Deeping Wall if it wasn't gunpowder?