Appeal on Bans

Started by T.M3 pages

Originally posted by Answers_Q
For the second one TM, sometimes there is no choice if people know your password.

I know my brothers, he is too predictable.

what Storm said 'log out every time you leave KMC and change your password regularly'

Yes, I am afraid it is no defence that others know your password- it is your own responsibility to ensure that is not so.

It would be highly impractical to have a post-ban contact mechanism; we would be flooded by all kinds of nonsense excuses.

Sorry, but regardless of the impact on individuals, a permanent ban is a permanent ban and that is the best option for the forums.

But still ushgarak, if a person swears a bit or is underage for registration the ban would still be too harsh.

Why not temporary bans like a week for swearing, or until your old enough to register.

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Also why not appoint a special moderator to filter out the nonsense from the particular forum and send the 'worthy' posts off to a mod who can judge them and maybe unban.

You are highly unlikely to get a permanent ban for swearing.

You did know that most bans ARE temporary, yes?

EDIT: Hmmmm.... not the place for this message.

Ushgarek, please check your PMs 🙂

Originally posted by Answers_Q
But still ushgarak, if a person swears a bit or is underage for registration the ban would still be too harsh.

Why not temporary bans like a week for swearing, or until your old enough to register.

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Also why not appoint a special moderator to filter out the nonsense from the particular forum and send the 'worthy' posts off to a mod who can judge them and maybe unban.


I temporarily banned members who are underage though it is rather pointless. By the time they' re allowed to register, they have forgotten about KMC.

Well I wish i knew that before i posted, id look less of an idiot 😛

How about a different example of a ban that could be rethought.

Socks - socks are made usually with reason... for all i know 😉

If I was told directly that making a clone or second account was not allowed I would have spoken to raz about a new name.

But all i was told was "dont make socks" by the other members. Which honestly made me think, 'ok but they do keep my feet warm'.

Did you read the Forum Guidelines & Rules?

Forum Guidelines & Rules
Multiple Registrations
Registration is strictly restricted to one per person (and one per computer). If we find any user who has created multiple accounts purposely, we reserve the right to remove all membership access without notice or explanation.
All name change request must be made to the Administrator, and is an unacceptable excuse for multiple registrations.

Do you know that only a small percentage of people read that stuff.

I know now i should have.
But i have gone through it several times and have found people breaking these rules.

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Courtesy
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult and personal attack.

I noticed that alot of flaming goes on which in turn will provoke people into abusing those who flame them.

Offensive Posts
There may be places where explicit, obscene or vulgar language, graphics or behavior is appropriate however KMC Forums is not one of them.

Example of this one - A recently discussed topic in the off-topic forums "Wildest sexual fantasy" or "Cyber sex or Phone sex?"

Now call me crazy, but that doesn't sound PG-13 😉

I could do more, but I don't want to sound like more of an uptight ******* than some people might think now 😉

Originally posted by Answers_Q
Do you know that only a small percentage of people read that stuff.

I know now i should have.
But i have gone through it several times and have found people breaking these rules.

laziness is no excuse to break the rules.

Try telling me that about a year ago...

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Seems stupid to quote myself, either that or arrogant.

Originally posted by Answers_Q

I noticed that alot of flaming goes on which in turn will provoke people into abusing those who flame them.

The flaming that I got about "use the search button" is in fact what set me off for my "abusive behaviour"

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Personal Information
Think before you post or speak: Do you really want to put your address or telephone number on a public discussion forum? We encourage you to keep personal information personal.
In the same vein, do not ask for personal information from others. Discussion forum posts that request members to submit personal information to another party will be removed.

I noticed a few months back that some information was posted about "supershadow" such as his name, address, telephone number.

It sat there for a couple weeks but I don't know what happened to it after that.

Regarding the flaming issues. We (the mods) ask all member to please not bash or engage in offensive fights with their fellow members. When we observe that the discussion is detiorating (sp?). We ask the parties involved to drop it. However, when the member ignores our announcement and notes. We then proceed to issue warnings. It also depends on the level of the actions by the member. For example two members get into a nasty fight. We issue a warning and one member walks away but the other member continues and even posts offensive messages....that member is due for a ban. No question about it. Ask yourself this...is there a real reason as to insult people on the internet? Don't you feel that is very inmature? Can you talk like a reasonable and rational person? Think about it.

I seems reasonable for them to have one appeal, but once they have blown it twice, they are gone.

Originally posted by Answers_Q
Try telling me that about a year ago...

Answer me this, Answers_Q...who were you before you registered today and became a sock?

Originally posted by Answers_Q
[B]Personal Information
Think before you post or speak: Do you really want to put your address or telephone number on a public discussion forum? We encourage you to keep personal information personal.
In the same vein, do not ask for personal information from others. Discussion forum posts that request members to submit personal information to another party will be removed.

I noticed a few months back that some information was posted about "supershadow" such as his name, address, telephone number.

It sat there for a couple weeks but I don't know what happened to it after that. [/B]


It is impossible for moderators to be on line 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. We can only deal with the problems we encounter ourselves and with the ones that get reported. There are always things that escape our notice.
If Supershadow didn' t report anything, then I assume no offence was taken.
Btw, Supershadow hasn' t posted anything since he/she registered in July 2003.

We generally issue a few PM warnings, before we start giving out temporary bans. And if a user still persists after 3 temp bans then the fourth ban tends to be permanent.

The only time we go straight to permanent bans, is in the case of socks, and thats only when we have good evidence to support this.

For instance, the thread starter is a sock of "green jedi", who was banned a while back. So in this case we issue a full ban.

Hope that clears things up 🙂

😑 ermm...

😆 sorry.

😆 Raz, that was seriously smooth.

Originally posted by WindDancer
Regarding the flaming issues. We (the mods) ask all member to please not bash or engage in offensive fights with their fellow members. When we observe that the discussion is detiorating (sp?). We ask the parties involved to drop it. However, when the member ignores our announcement and notes. We then proceed to issue warnings. It also depends on the level of the actions by the member. For example two members get into a nasty fight. We issue a warning and one member walks away but the other member continues and even posts offensive messages....that member is due for a ban. No question about it. Ask yourself this...is there a real reason as to insult people on the internet? Don't you feel that is very inmature? Can you talk like a reasonable and rational person? Think about it.

I've stopped going to the GDF because so many people are into bashing and attacking that I don't find it to be fun. People should talk about issues and not turn the forum into an insulting game. People who take the fun out of the forum should be banned, but should be given a chance to redeem themselves.