That's Noob (Saibot)... fear him! 😛
Look at the Street Fighter 4 preview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T51U8uQFrQo&playnext=1&list=PL5D06124C84A250F9
At 2.45. Sagat is training near that huge rock face, and he seems about do destroying it. So Sagat IS truly capable to wipe a mountain.
At 0.52 you can also see the true power (not restrained by gameplay mechanics) of Chun-Li's Kikosho. It can give you an hint about the true power of the Street Fighter chars.
Originally posted by samirerre
the sight can decieve
and no im not noob(what noob is anyway?)
i play fg since forever
also sagat's feats arent impressive to convice
me.and the one who told me that sagat can wipe mountains is noob himself
The fact is this, you have already pre-judged Joe as the winner. You won't consider evidence, and your reasoning is really wonky.
You don;t have to be conviced, the facts speak for themselves. Sagat has feats that Joe is not capable of, or at least has not proven to be capable of.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
The fact is this, you have already pre-judged Joe as the winner. You won't consider evidence, and your reasoning is really wonky.You don;t have to be conviced, the facts speak for themselves. Sagat has feats that Joe is not capable of, or at least has not proven to be capable of.
Originally posted by Meioh_Hades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T51U8uQFrQo&playnext=1&list=PL5D06124C84A250F9At 2.45. Sagat is training near that huge rock face, and he seems about do destroying it. So Sagat IS truly capable to wipe a mountain.
Originally posted by samirerre
my judgment is okay,but i cant just say that one character is superrior to another becouse he has many feats ,while the other dosent even have one,and all we can do is judge hime accurding to his gameplay, and sorry but i cant belive that sagat has a bit bigger superball that wipes big thing and is stronger then joe's ultimat attacke which is a GIANT FREAKIN HURRICAN running towards you ,honestley this isnt even fair,no one even supplied 1 feat of joe and all of you just voted to sagat,i like sf too but damn don tell me that i have weak judgment ans all this blame goes to snk foe not making the ff cast canon comics, and i guerentee you that if the day will come we will see joe flying ass like sagat to the moon,and im not easily to be convinced(im jewish)
It's not that Joe doesn't have feats, or that Sagat has many of them, it is that the feats displayed by Sagat is beyond what Joe has shown capable of doing.
Giant Hurricane?
Uhm.... No, Not gigantic, it's a whirlwind for one, and 2 just because it's big doesn't mean it's impenetrable. Besides, what has Joe destroyed with it? Hell mate, even his Double Cyclone: can be pierced...
Here: Or for the SNK fan in you: Now, tell me why that would not penetrate a wind funnel... And don't say because it's smaller, because that is totally irrelevant.
We didn't supply feats for Joe because it's not anyone's job to do so if they don't support his victory over Sagat. If you feel he is under-represented, then check his respect thread and see what others have posted, and if he has no respect thread, then you should start one up and actually list his accomplishments.
We supported Sagat because it's obvious who would win this contest, it's not a matter of liking a character more, and it's certainly not our fault SNK didn't give Joe more feats. We can only analyse what we have. It won't do to invent things for Joe to try and even him up, because that is mis-representation. You can't fault people for pointing that out.
And, I didn't say your judgement is weak, I said in this case you entered the thread with a pre-determined judgement of Joe's victory for faulty reasons. If we do see Joe, in a canon capacity, outstrip Sagat in terms of fighting capability, I would be happy to eat my humble pie, but as it stands now, Sagat would pound Joe into the ground.
And as I said before, our job is not to convince you, but merely to present the facts of the case, your mindset is not a pre-requisite for Sagat's victory.
sagat in snk style looks epic,
well i dont know any feat of joe
but i know that joe can take this
joe is a modern honoreable fighter and vary diciplan
and i think he as a character has great power.
the chinese comics show him doing crazy stuff but,this aint no canon.
btw the joe gif is bit zoomed out,joe is bit taller then that
and i was talking about ff joe NOT KOF JOE ,read the rules
and btw which sagat version joe is supposed to challenge?
Originally posted by samirerre
well i dont know any feat of joe
but i know that joe can take this
You "Know" this? How? and if you cannot prove it, thats your own problem.
Originally posted by samirerre
joe is a modern honoreable fighter and vary diciplan
and i think he as a character has great power.
the chinese comics show him doing crazy stuff but,this aint no canon.
This is all conjecture rather than oppinion. The chinese comics have Ryu and Akluma tearing up dimensions and timelines with punches, but not one iota of canon info.
Originally posted by samirerre
btw the joe gif is bit zoomed out,joe is bit taller then that
and i was talking about ff joe NOT KOF JOE ,read the rules
and btw which sagat version joe is supposed to challenge?
Uhm, no it's not, Joe is not huge, Sagat is.
Excuse you? YOU read the rules, then read what I said, I didn't mention anything about KOF.
Uhm, the Street Fighter version?
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You "Know" this? How? and if you cannot prove it, thats your own problem.
i just know it http://images.killermovies.com/forums/smilies/cartoon/tongue.gifThis is all conjecture rather than oppinion. The chinese comics have Ryu and Akluma tearing up dimensions and timelines with punches, but not one iota of canon info.
sorry never read them ,but i can say ff-kof dosent have large media so stfuUhm, no it's not, Joe is not huge, Sagat is.
what!!?? i said that joe is taller then that .
Excuse you? YOU read the rules, then read what I said, I didn't mention anything about KOF.Uhm, the Street Fighter version?
Originally posted by samirerre
but you used kof joe.
No I didn't. Not once did I say the letters KOF in this thread.
Originally posted by samirerre
mustley you need to SEPECIFY, but since its sf then whatever, 😛
What?
The OP said Real Bout Fatal Fury Special edition of Joe, thats the one we are discussing. It doesn't really matter anyway, no version of Joe has exhibited the feats to match Sagat anyway
Originally posted by samirerre
AND READ THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IM TALKING BOUT
See this? I love how you have assumed I have not read the thead, despite the fact I was one of the first ones to post in it... You've made a broad assumption about me, you need to stop that.
Originally posted by samirerre
you hear joe vs sagat and you automatically say sagat without even chacking rules and stuff
You read the thread title and immediately jumped on the SNK bandwagon and said Joe despite not providing a single decent shred of evidence and then blaming SNK for it. And now your becoming hostile because you assume I don't know what I'm talking about despite the very fact that I have been in this forum of 7 years, and have been playing fighting games for more than 20 years. So please tell me you have SOMETHING to prove Joe wins over Sagat in a straight up fight... And remember the debating rules, your oppinion is not fact, you have to prove your oppinion is correct with established fact.
It's really funny that people who think that Sagat wins present canon feats and such, while people who think Joe victory say things like "I don't know any feat of Joe but I know that Joe can win".
It remembers me another forum when I saw "I don't know who Kratos is, but I think that he's too weak for Shao Kahn" ^^'
Originally posted by samirerre
he has more projectiles
He has 2 projectiles, so does Sagat, he has one super projectile, so does Sagat. (Well, technically Sagat has 3 super projectiles...)
Originally posted by samirerre
faster at short range combat(and better)
Faster perhaps, but not better. Remember, he trained Adon, who uses a similar style of Muay Thai to Joe, and yet he still pounds the ever-living hell out of Adon with a single attack.
Originally posted by samirerre
he can roll
Irrelevant.
Originally posted by samirerre
he's moves are preatty usefull to fight against sagat
Problem: Sagat fights people who have similar qualities to Joe regularly, and also fights characters who are better than Joe and still wins more often than he loses.
Originally posted by samirerre
and thats the best i know of him
and if you dont belive me then we stuck
It's not about beleif Samirerre, it's about proof.
also Sagat isn't as slow as you think he is. after all he's able to tag Adon, who's note to be fast.
Adon from AASFZ3
Fighting Style
Contacts being a characteristic quality through slicing utilized of nimble
footwork, he specializes in attacks due to elbows and knees. In the case
of being compared with his master having been Sagat, physique is small but,
he goes to the top with speed and number of moves. Before coming out for a
progressive attack pose, even through Thailand's Runpini Stadium (the army
manages the great stadium) he's being highly appreciated.
******************************************************************************
Highlights:
-Adon's quick and light on his feet, with a varied arsenal and formidable
speed. While Sagat was emperor of Muay Thai, Adon calls himself the god of
it, and manages to be praised that way, at least in Sagat's absence.
Samierre, you are talking about gameplay stats, but gameplay stats are totally irrilevant!
We don't say that a warrior like Gouki is strong 'cause his Shun Goku Satsu causes about 60% damage and is an unblockable move, he has an aerial fireball, etc.
Gouki is strong 'cause he displayed things like the island sinking feat.
If NOTHING states that Joe is stronger than Sagat and you insist stating that Joe is stronger only 'cause "you think so", that just makes you a Joe Higashi fanboy.
