Kar Vastor and Sora Bulq vs. Darth Sidious...

Started by Darth_Glentract2 pages
Originally posted by darthsith19
LOL, right, whatever Fannus, more people voted for the ARC in the ARC vs. Magnaguard thread anyway. I've just read The Best Blades. Dude, Alpha's strong as hell. Not as strong as a Royal Guard. LOL! Dude, Yoda wasted two guards with a wave of his hand! He was kore hard pressed than that to defeat standard clone troopers in the temple.

Since when has has the majority always been right? Notice, Yoda wasted to Red Guards, not Royal Guards. They are a different group.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Right. Did they ever do anything besides get wasted by Yoda?

A lot. Maybe you should do a bit of research before posting next time. It might make you sound a little less stupid.

The following took me about three minutes to put together from various sources.

Members of the Royal Guard were hand-picked from the ranks of the elite stormtroopers and considered a special detachment of the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps. Each recruit was scrutinized to fit select size, strength, intelligence and loyalty requirements, as well as latent Force sensitivity.

During a yearlong training program, recruits sparred against each other continuously to perfect their combat skills. A step away from the squad-based Stormtrooper training received on Carida, by working both alone and in pairs, recruits learned how to rely on themselves or on a teammate to achieve victory, Failure in training often meant death. During their final test, trainees fought each other to the death in an arena called the "Squall" before Palpatine himself.

With their primary mission to protect the Emperor and any of his designees, the Royal Guard was never sent on combat missions as a corps. Instead, a few small elements of Royal Guardsmen were sent into combat on a rotating basis to keep them in fighting trim.

The following is the accomplishments of a single Royal Guard, Carnor Jax.

After Endor, Jax was part of the detachment who came under the control of Ysanne Isard, and dispatched by her as a member of the unit she lent to Lumiya. The Dark Lady recognized his Force potential, and began to train him as her Sith Apprentice.

When the cloned Palpatine siezed control of the Empire once more in 10 ABY, Jax rejoined the ranks of the Royal Guard, but his true loyalties lay with Lumiya, and with himself. He served as the fulcrum of a wide-ranging conspiracy, backed by senior military commanders, influential civilian loyalists and alien leaders such as the Whipid spearmaster. Even the Imperial physician was involved, sabotaging Palpatine's clone bodies - the "Dark Emperor" seems to have been blind to the fact that he had been betrayed, utterly unaware that the decay was not simply due to his excessive Force usage.

Jax believed that Kir Kanos, as the one man who could reveal his treachery, posed a serious threat to his plans, and launched a galaxy-wide manhunt for his former comrade. He followed Kanos to Phaeda, where Kanos aided a band of Rebels under the command of Mirith Sinn, only to learn that Kanos had fled to Yinchorr. It was there that their final showdown occurred. Kanos, aided by Mirith Sinn, defeated Jax' henchman Blim and his bodyguard of Blackhole Stormtroopers, and finally defeated and executed Jax himself in the middle of the Squall.

Originally posted by darthsith19
I'm sure someone as strong as Sora will be able to see it coming in time to block it.

Just like the other 99% of the Jedi Order? I doubt it.

Notice, Yoda wasted to Red Guards, not Royal Guards. They are a different group.

Fannus said the Red Guard coukd beat the ARC. What's the difference anyway?

Okay, so the Guards are basically like elite stormtroopers and the ARC's are elite Clone Troopers. And this isn't about Jax. I'm talking about the guards from ROTS and LOE. Those would be Red Guards?

Just like the other 99% of the Jedi Order? I doubt it.

What? Luke didn't see it because he's a wimp, Anakin didn't see it because he's a dumbass in AOTC. Yoda saw Dooku's, he saw Sidious's but had little enough time to block it. The second time he did block it. Mace saw and blocked Sidious's. AOTC Obi-Wan blocked Sidious's. So what's that? Four out of seven blocked it. That's hardly 99%

When did Obi-Wan fight Sidious, I wonder. . . ?

Darthsith, just as many before you have tried to explain, there is a reason that the Royal Guard are called Palpatine's best. Yoda didn't even kill him, but he disabled them easily because he is a very powerful Jedi. The most powerful, in fact. Thus, should I say that Super Battle Droids and Clonetroopers are ineffective and weak because Obi-Wan cut through them like cheese?

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
When did Obi-Wan fight Sidious, I wonder. . . ?

I meant Dooku.
Darthsith, just as many before you have tried to explain, there is a reason that the Royal Guard are called Palpatine's best.

Yeah, and there's a reason ARC Troopers are called the best. "You have been chosen for this assignment because you are the best" - Obi-Wan Chapter Two of Clone Wars Microseries.
oda didn't even kill him, but he disabled them easily because he is a very powerful Jedi.

Yeah, but he couldn't take out Thire that easily. Really, if he could why would Sidious have Thire and, what was it, four other Shock Troopers looking for Yoda. If he could really pwn Thire more easily than he could pwn a Guard?
Thus, should I say that Super Battle Droids and Clonetroopers are ineffective and weak because Obi-Wan cut through them like cheese?

Which is why Yoda had more trouble against Clones than he did against Guards. Thanks for clearing that up.

WTF? So you're saying that Yoda wouldn't be able to kill two clones standing behind him? Kashyyyk, anyone?

And did you not see ROTS? Yoda takes out about fifteen, twenty clones in a matter of seconds, deflecting their blasters by the dozens, Force pushing them three at a time, sabering them into oblivion. . . I doubt that either guard or clone would be hassle for him.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
WTF? So you're saying that Yoda wouldn't be able to kill two clones standing behind him? Kashyyyk, anyone?

And did you not see ROTS? Yoda takes out about fifteen, twenty clones in a matter of seconds, deflecting their blasters by the dozens, Force pushing them three at a time, sabering them into oblivion. . . I doubt that either guard or clone would be hassle for him.


On Kashyyyk he had more trouble that in the office. In the office he merely moves his hands. On Kashyyyk he had to draw his saber. Fifteen, twenty clones in seconds? You know, sometime when I care I will count his number of kill and how many seconds it took to kill them, okay?