Originally posted by badabing
Aquaman is a bada$$ but I keep thinking that Storm has too much mobility for him. Tornados and lightning do the job on Aquaman.
The problem is that before Storm has time to do any of that, Aquaman uses his telepathy to reduce her to a quivering mass writhing in agony on the ground. All he has to do is think and she loses. Her mobility is useless.
Originally posted by TheKahn
So it's cheap to use one of your powers to win a fight??? 😕
Why wouldn't you use the one power you have that your opponent doesn't have any protection against?And his telepath isn't just defenseive ❌
repect thread telepathy feats :http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=375903&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=6"Aquaman can induce seizures on any life that has marine ancestors. Even adept TP users like the White Martians."
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2841/go2017tn.jpg
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7430/go2028cn.jpg***(Scans posted by Lucid Lui)
That said, Aquaman wins 10/10.
"Aquaman can induce seizures on any life that has marine ancestors. Even adept TP users like the White Martians."
Storm is not a fish, or a whale, you proved that his TP wouldn't work... that was brilliant... Thank you for ending this whole discussion. 💃 😆 💃
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
"Aquaman can induce seizures on any life that has marine ancestors. Even adept TP users like the White Martians."
Storm is not a fish, or a whale, you proved that his TP wouldn't work... that was brilliant... Thank you for ending this whole discussion. 💃 😆 💃
You know that humans DO have marine ancestors? The first thing that crawled out from the sea...etc.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
"Aquaman can induce seizures on any life that has marine ancestors. Even adept TP users like the White Martians."
Storm is not a fish, or a whale, you proved that his TP wouldn't work... that was brilliant... Thank you for ending this whole discussion. 💃 😆 💃
You are aware that, scientifically speaking, all life on earth evolved from marine organisms, aren't you? If you had looked at the respect thread link I posted you would see Aquaman using his telepathy on Dr. Polaris and Black Manta. Humans (and therefore mutants) have marine animals as evolutionary ancestors. 🙄 Is it too much to ask for people to stay awake in their high school science classes?
Originally posted by badabing
I thought that she was resistant to telepathy.
I've only ever heard her described as having minor telepathic defenses. As Aquaman is one of the most powerful telepaths in DC, I doubt she could stand up to him seeing as White Martians, who are extremely strong telepaths themselves, couldn't block him.
Originally posted by badabing
I hear what you're saying Kahn and I guess it could go that way. I just think Storm can cause a lot of havok in a battle. By the way, what is your handle from?
Before I started coming here to kill time in between classes, I would play Texas Hold-em on TruePoker. And my avatar on there was the called "the Kahn". So I kind of stole that name when I was signing up. 😖hifty:
Originally posted by TheKahn
You are aware that, scientifically speaking, all life on earth evolved from marine organisms, aren't you? If you had looked at the respect thread link I posted you would see Aquaman using his telepathy on Dr. Polaris and Black Manta. Humans (and therefore mutants) have marine animals as evolutionary ancestors. 🙄 Is it too much to ask for people to stay awake in their high school science classes?
1) First off the word theory means that it is not an absolute.
2) Whenever scientists are asked to prove without a shadow of a doubt that we evolved from simians they can not.
3) A gorilla was a gorilla 10,000 yrs ago and is still a gorilla today... unless you're saying that in another 10,000 yrs, that they will be able to build cars, or invent things beyond their primal grasp. Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything that you read in a text book.
3) Yes, it's true our DNA and a chimps DNA nearly mirror eachothers, but then again the DNA found in trees nearly mirror ours too, so what... am I to believe that trees will one day start walking around, and talking? Not everyone is in the dark when it comes to the BS being pumped into the masses of the less informed.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1) First off the word theory means that it is not an absolute.
2) Whenever scientists are asked to prove without a shadow of a doubt that we evolved from simians they can not.
3) A gorilla was a gorilla 10,000 yrs ago and is still a gorilla today... unless you're saying that in another 10,000 yrs, that they will be able to build cars, or invent things beyond their primal grasp. Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything that you read in a text book.
3) Yes, it's true our DNA and a chimps DNA nearly mirror eachothers, but then again the DNA found in trees nearly mirror ours too, so what... am I to believe that trees will one day start walking around, and talking? Not everyone is in the dark when it comes to the BS being pumped into the masses of the less informed.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
1) First off the word theory means that it is not an absolute.
2) Whenever scientists are asked to prove without a shadow of a doubt that we evolved from simians they can not.
3) A gorilla was a gorilla 10,000 yrs ago and is still a gorilla today... unless you're saying that in another 10,000 yrs, that they will be able to build cars, or invent things beyond their primal grasp. Perhaps you shouldn't believe everything that you read in a text book.
3) Yes, it's true our DNA and a chimps DNA nearly mirror eachothers, but then again the DNA found in trees nearly mirror ours too, so what... am I to believe that trees will one day start walking around, and talking? Not everyone is in the dark when it comes to the BS being pumped into the masses of the less informed.
Calm down dude and Reread my post. There was a reason I included the qualifier: "scientifically speaking". If you want to disagree with evolution, then by all means be my guest. But as Aquaman has used telepathy on humans in his book then, at least in DC, the theory of evolution is used in regards to humans. But as I think this fight is over fairly quickly and I'm always up for a little debating....😈
1) Of course evolution is just called a "theory". Unfortunately since fossilization of any organism isn't a very common occurrence, usually requiring both the animal having hard parts and it dieing near a somewhere where soft sediments are being gently deposited, there is just a limited amount of information available. If we had living samples of every creature that had ever lived then evolution might be able to be proven conclusively (thus granting it the title of "law"😉, but a lack of evidence due to natural processes should not be counted against the theory.
2) See above. We lack samples of every simian that has ever lived and thus creating a complete picture of human evolution isn't yet possible. However, I would contend that very few things in the universe can be proven to an absolute with current scientific methods. All of the available information is taken and compiled into a model that supports said evidence. The current model that supports the information available on human origins (as well as all other life) is evolution.
3) Living in the Southern United States, believe me when I tell you I've heard this one before 😉 . What people who say this tend to ignore that the origin of new species is specialization. The ancestors of humans found a type of niche in nature in which they were able to thrive and which promoted an increasing level of intelligence. Not all apes needed to specialize in the same way as the human ancestor to thrive. They were able to adapt in other ways in order to survive or to put it another way, the environmental pressures they faced did not trend them towards our level of intelligence.
As to if apes can evolve intelligence in 10,000 years, I would say no. The best estimates have it taking millions of years for humans to evolve to their present status. Given millions of years and the proper environmental pressures towards specialization in intelligence then there no reason why another branch of the ape family couldn't become more intelligent. And if you don't look to science textbooks for information on science questions, where exactly are you suppose to look? 😕
4) No, what the commonalities found in the DNA in different organisms reflect is a common ancestor at some point in their development. I would suggest at the very least doing a little research on scientific theories before you dismiss them offhand.
You know I would launch a huge rebuttal to everything that you brought up, but this is not really the place for it, I left a part of my knowledge based on scientific evidence on the table, and that will end my debate on the topic... I just need to leave one thing with you though... If you dug a hole, poured salt into it and threw in a freshly deceased carcass, how long do you think it would take for it to fossilize? Certainly not a million years. It is also not conclussive as to exactly how long the human race has existed, but taking our nature into account I highly doubt that it has been anywhere near this period of time. There is a book called The Lord of the Flies, this book profoundly illustrates the human psyche, and just how long it takes for us to adapt... this is in no way is a rebuttal to what you've written as I stated earlier, you are entitled to believe what you will.
As far as this fight is concerned, I'm sticking with Storm, because in the comic book reality that you mentioned, shows Aquaman cutting loose with a psychic assault while fighting beside Namor, his assault was being percieved as an explosive type of event. What I mean by explosive is, he wasn't aiming at any particular person, anyone within his telepathic reach including his allies would feel the psychic backlash if it could affect them, As we saw when he knocked Marina out as well as the rest of the sea dwelling races. Namor was also affected, but was able to remain conscious due to his human genes. If you noticed, all of the other humans were unaffected by his random assault. This is why I don't believe that his telepathic abilities would have a strong affect on Storm if any.
Aquaman using telepathy on humans:
States that he can easily probe the surface thoughts of Black Manta with his telepathy in second scan (which his magic hand amplifies even more).
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3548/aquamanwaterhandabilities057hm.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9896/aquamanwaterhandabilities063hv.jpg
Probing Dr. Polaris' mind
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4460/aquamanprobespolaris017dv.jpg
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3580/aquamanprobespolaris027zk.jpg
very early human telepathic feat on a human
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8086/aquamannonfishtp017wg.jpg
talks telepathically to superman (not a human but still a good tp feat)
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/attachments/041027063216/Aquaman-communicates-telepathically-with-Superman.jpg
telepathic speech
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7723/aquamantelepathicspeeches2si.jpg
Telepathy on non-marine animals:
birds (supporting the idea that all land life evolved from marine organisms)
http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aquamancallsbirds027ug.jpg
This only proves that he can probe the minds of other creatures, and control animals it never shows his ability to control a humans mind as Xavier is famous of doing, I don't want to be difficult, and have no problem with being reproved, but your scans have not proven that Aquaman is capable of knocking Storm out telepathically, or controlling her, it would appear that the only way for him to accomplish this would be by exerting his will over hers, and Storm has huge willpower... I still have to go with the tsunami's, tornadoes, and hurricanes over this guys magic hand.
You know what I didn't see that in the scans, as a matter of fact, all the scans after the one stating Black Manta was authistic were all blurred, an I couldn't see them, if that is the case then Aquaman wins this, and thats providing that he uses this tactic to take her out... but if he does Storms finished.
