Juggernaut is invulnerable and indestructable but not undefeatble. Those who say he is equal to hulk in strength are confused. It took juggernaut a month to break out of concrete while hulk has broken out of secondary adamantium. It took ten years to come out of a mountain while hulk just smashed one. He could not lay a finger on onslaught who sent him flying across COUNTRIES! while hulk was able to break his armor. What are some of juggernauts strength feats can any of them match hulks? Hulks strength has been said to be limitless countless times. He has done things that thor and other people of juggernauts strength level could not do and some still say they are equal in strength.
The hulk that lost to juggernaut was professor hulk. In hulk 172 juggernaut hits hulk from behind and tries to start beating savge hulk. Savage hulk in turn grabs him swings him around making his helmet come off and throws him away Hulk then starts to walk away not seeing juggernaut and after this juggernaut gets up in order to try and continue the fight when the X men show up and mind blast him. Juggernaut tried to continue the fight after hulk began walking away if he had continued the same thing would have happened until hulk had gotten sufficiently angry to throw far enough away so that he would be unable to return until hulk had left that area this may not be a knockout victory but it is still a victory for hulk
Hulk is also faster and even with his low intelligence a better fighter than juggernaut In most hulk juggernaut fights this is what would happen provided it is savage hulk and he gets enraged thereby causing his strength to surpass that of juggernaut
Juggernauts base strength is equal to savage hulks base strength but since jugs strength doeeeeees nooooooot increase and savge hulks does savage hulk has the potential to become far stronger than juggernaut
Originally posted by Eternity
Juggernaut is invulnerable and indestructable but not undefeatble. Those who say he is equal to hulk in strength are confused. It took juggernaut a month to break out of concrete while hulk has broken out of secondary adamantium. It took ten years to come out of a mountain while hulk just smashed one. He could not lay a finger on onslaught who sent him flying across COUNTRIES! while hulk was able to break his armor. What are some of juggernauts strength feats can any of them match hulks? Hulks strength has been said to be limitless countless times. He has done things that thor and other people of juggernauts strength level could not do and some still say they are equal in strength.
The hulk that lost to juggernaut was professor hulk. In hulk 172 juggernaut hits hulk from behind and tries to start beating savge hulk. Savage hulk in turn grabs him swings him around making his helmet come off and throws him away Hulk then starts to walk away not seeing juggernaut and after this juggernaut gets up in order to try and continue the fight when the X men show up and mind blast him. Juggernaut tried to continue the fight after hulk began walking away if he had continued the same thing would have happened until hulk had gotten sufficiently angry to throw far enough away so that he would be unable to return until hulk had left that area this may not be a knockout victory but it is still a victory for hulk
Hulk is also faster and even with his low intelligence a better fighter than juggernaut In most hulk juggernaut fights this is what would happen provided it is savage hulk and he gets enraged thereby causing his strength to surpass that of juggernaut
Juggernauts base strength is equal to savage hulks base strength but since jugs strength doeeeeees nooooooot increase and savge hulks does savage hulk has the potential to become far stronger than juggernaut
Hulk has never handled Thor like Juggernaut has. That is one of the reasons that people say that Juggernaut's base strenthg is greater than Hulk's. Both the moutain and the cement are PIS. The mountain was there merely to explain why juggernaut had not been around for the past decade. And the cement was just to save spiderman's ass cause he couldn'tdefeat him.
First of all Onlsaught didn't even exist as a physical entity when he encountered Juggernaut. He was purely psychic Juggernaut's one weakness. Second of all you seem to forget that Hulk couldn't even get through Onlsaught's forefeild or that Hulk wasn't there by himself. IT wasn't until vision and rouge charged him that Hulk was even able to get near him. On top of that Hulk was being sheilded by psi-blockers that he got from the Avengers. Also the first person to break Onlsaught's armor was Cyclops who put a hole right through him.
Sure Hulk might be abelt to toss Juggernaut away, but just asi easily Juggernaut can do the same, not to mention unlike Juggernaut Hulk can be knocked out by simply being hit over and over agian as Juggernaut already demonstrated.
Juggernaut's strentgh does in crease it is tied to his emeotional state. When confident and angry the Juggernaut's powers go through the roof. That is what 8th day juggernaut was. He wanted to go somewhere and do somethingmore than he ever wanted to do before and nothign could stop him. Where as he actually became weaker after he landed in new Jersey because he was scared as Beast pointed out. That is why psylocke's knife worked through his helmet, and why cable was actually able to put him down temporarily with a power cable.
Originally posted by Warmonger
Hulk has never handled Thor like Juggernaut has. That is one of the reasons that people say that Juggernaut's base strenthg is greater than Hulk's. Both the moutain and the cement are PIS. The mountain was there merely to explain why juggernaut had not been around for the past decade. And the cement was just to save spiderman's ass cause he couldn'tdefeat him.First of all Onlsaught didn't even exist as a physical entity when he encountered Juggernaut. He was purely psychic Juggernaut's one weakness. Second of all you seem to forget that Hulk couldn't even get through Onlsaught's forefeild or that Hulk wasn't there by himself. IT wasn't until vision and rouge charged him that Hulk was even able to get near him. On top of that Hulk was being sheilded by psi-blockers that he got from the Avengers. Also the first person to break Onlsaught's armor was Cyclops who put a hole right through him.
Sure Hulk might be abelt to toss Juggernaut away, but just asi easily Juggernaut can do the same, not to mention unlike Juggernaut Hulk can be knocked out by simply being hit over and over agian as Juggernaut already demonstrated.
Juggernaut's strentgh does in crease it is tied to his emeotional state. When confident and angry the Juggernaut's powers go through the roof. That is what 8th day juggernaut was. He wanted to go somewhere and do somethingmore than he ever wanted to do before and nothign could stop him. Where as he actually became weaker after he landed in new Jersey because he was scared as Beast pointed out. That is why psylocke's knife worked through his helmet, and why cable was actually able to put him down temporarily with a power cable.
Wasnt eigth day created by juggernaut somehow tapping into more of cyttoraks power? It may have been because of his emotional state but this does not happen everyday unlike hulks strength which increases regularly. Since i do not see an eigth day juggernaut coming into play in this fight i still think hulk wins due to superior strength. I also have to ask isnt juggernauts helmet supposed to protect him from psychic attacks? Please explain how just because onslaught was psychic juggernaut lost to him. Didnt he have his helmet on?
Hulk has also beaten Thor in warrior madness form which multiplies thors strength by ten times. Could you please post some of juggernauts great feats to prove he is stronger than hulk. I still do not believe juggernaut is stronger than hulk or as strong and 8th day juggernaut is not who ia am referring to but if you can prove otherwise then juggernaut wins
Originally posted by EternityYeah that is what 8th day is Juggernaut tapping into more power but he has demonstrated the ability to tap into his power through raw emotions. Like when he fought D'Spayre he said so him slef when he feels rage nothing on this world or anyother can stop him.
Wasnt eigth day created by juggernaut somehow tapping into more of cyttoraks power? It may have been because of his emotional state but this does not happen everyday unlike hulks strength which increases regularly. Since i do not see an eigth day juggernaut coming into play in this fight i still think hulk wins due to superior strength. I also have to ask isnt juggernauts helmet supposed to protect him from psychic attacks? Please explain how just because onslaught was psychic juggernaut lost to him. Didnt he have his helmet on?Hulk has also beaten Thor in warrior madness form which multiplies thors strength by ten times. Could you please post some of juggernauts great feats to prove he is stronger than hulk. I still do not believe juggernaut is stronger than hulk or as strong and 8th day juggernaut is not who ia am referring to but if you can prove otherwise then juggernaut wins
Originally posted by EternityNot really this isn't true. Even Hulks own writers once said they think Juggernaut is stronger then Hulk because of the unlimited power he can draw from cyttorak. All Juggs has to do is get emotional and angry and his power increaes like Hulks. Unlike Hulk though Juggs overall power will increase not just his strength.
Nor is a bloodlusted hulk something to mess with. The thing is juggernauts strength increases do not come like hulks and hulk could have become far stronger than him this is also simply an ordinary juggernaut.
Hulks chief writer said that galactus would be hulks greatest test so there words are not that reliable. Jugs does not get strength icreases in the same manner as hulk his strength does increase using different means but not like hulks. Jugs is also not an emotional guy and has not been known to get drastical strength increases in ordinary fights as hulk has Juggernaut can draw power from cyttorak but i dont think it is unlimited where as hulk draws powers from two unknown dimensions and has been said to have limitless strengh
Originally posted by EternityUm yes it does as he once said when fighting D'Spayre when he feels Rage nothing in this world or any can stop him. This was when he had been drained of some of his power by D'Spayre. He was actually feeling pain but when he had his flesh striped from his bones he seemed fine. His power does increase through emotions.
Hulks chief writer said that galactus would be hulks greatest test so there words are not that reliable. Jugs does not get strength icreases in the same manner as hulk his strength does increase using different means but not like hulks. Jugs is also not an emotional guy and has not been known to get drastical strength increases in ordinary fights as hulk has
Originally posted by EternityNot really Juggs is hardly ever prtrayed as a Rageful person. He normaly is shown as someone who wants to go somewhere and if you get in his way he normally knocks you out of it. He hardly ever goes in actually being serious about beating people up he just does it. And when he has been shown to get serious well then he has knocked out Prof. Hulk. He completely dominated Spiderman as in Spiderman could not stop him.
When he was fighting as a skeleton did he actually fight didnt his skin come back? anyway juggernauts rage is not as common as hulks rage and he has been seen angry in comics before but never shown to be ultimately powerful because of that