Batman vs Spider-Man

Started by Black Rob2 pages

With 18 days he'll probably just have some sort of seeker missile so he'd win

Originally posted by spetznaz
They could have Batman using some sort of tuning resonance that affects Spiderman's inner ear (through sub-sonic vibrations), which cause Spiderman's sense of balance to be severely affected (due to loss of equilibrium through effects on the hair pilli in his inner ear), and thus disoriented with disequillibrium and vertigo, PLUS negating the help of his spider-sense. Thus Spiderman would not only lose his balance but not be able to efficiently utilize his spider-sense, making him easy prey for a secondary attack.

What type of secondary attack. Well, Deathstroke once used an explosive array that was scattered in a wide area quite efficiently. While Batman doesn't kill, he does know that Spidey is robust enough to be roughed up by weak explosives without killing him (eg let's say blasting caps with just a very thin ring of semtex/C4).
And what do we have .....an unconscious Spiderman.

Oh, but I'm almost certain that you will say that is not 'realistic enough.' After all, what in goodness name is tuning resonance?
Well, for one check out Darpa (google it). DARpa is the United States Defence Advanced Research Agency (DARPA comes from that), and their motto is to invent and prepare things for the 'next war.' All they do is plan for the future to ensure that the US always maintains the upper edge.
And guess what .....one of the things they have been developing is a sonic weapon that affects the inner ear, causing disorientation /vomiting / vertigo / and the inability to continue fighting, without killing an enemy.
This is in the real world.
Imagine what could be done in comics?

The only thing is how 'realistic' do you want it to be? After all this are comic book characters, and MOREOVER significant PIS/CIS inanity occurs.
For example (using Spiderman) he once totally thrashed SUPERMAN .....something that should be impossible in every way imaginable (Superman is beyond Spidey in every way). Yet Spiderman was beating Kal-El like a rag-doll.
How?
Well, in the cross-over they said Superman was suffering from the effects of a 'red-ray' radiation shot, and thus was extremely weak.
Hence Spiderman mopped the floor with Superman.

Is that 'realistic?'
No it is not ....it is actually absolutely ludicrous.
HOWEVER, if Marvel can come up with such a thing, and DC can allow one of their premier characters to be treated by someone on Spiderman's level (the same thing also happened between Venom and Superman), whereby a character that should squish Spiderman (even with his much vaunted ...scoff scoff ....'spidersense) into the cement in less than 5 seconds, then ANYTHING is possible.

For instance Marvel had Captain America (yep, Billy boy) beat up Thor.
You read that right .....Cap thrashed Thor and started bashing at him (Thor laying on the ground and Cap standing over him) with his shield!
Once again pure nonsense .....but the thing is if the writer/inker/penciler come up with it and put it on paper ....well, what is someone to do?

Or take the Lobo versus Wolverine thing where Wolverine won. Totally insane (and impossible), but it happened because the fans voted for it. Same with between Storm and Wonder Woman (Storm ...erm ....'won'😉.
Insane and inane.

Now, back to Batman versus Spiderman.
Batman is written as a master of stratagem. He has plans that have been used to bring down the JLA (with members that have powers that make Spiderman seem like a bumbling fool). That is Batman's main strength ....the ability to prepare and plan tactics and strategies that allow him to accomplish tasks that should be impossible.
For example in No Man's Land he told Superman he did not need any help since he had plans to bring Gotham back in order, and that each of those plans had 5 backup plans, and each of the backup plans had 5 others.
Thus Bat's 'power' is his mind.

This thread gave him 18 days, where he can prepare against Spiderman.
Come on ....that is like preparing a test for a genius, and then telling him 18 days before the test exactly what is coming so he can prepare himself for it.

But hey ....you want a 'realistic scenario.'
Check the one I put at the beginning.
And if that is not enough ....hey ...here are some more (which are totally ridiculous, but have been used in comics to defeat characters like Galactus and Superman ....cases that should have been impossible).

Hmmmm, let's see ....a realistic scenario in comics (where Marvel characters like Mr Fantastic defeat a consumer of worlds like Galactus by coming up with a 'nullifier gun' ....LOL). Hmmm, maybe DC can try to match Marvel's stunts and have Batman make a 'anti-spiderman' gun.
Too silly? It worked for Spiderman when he was ....erm ...'beating' Superman.
Well, this is comics. The penciller could even have Spiderman slipping on a banana peel, and if it makes it on paper so it is.
He can draw Spiderman getting a severe case of the hiccups due to 'strobe effect inducer' Batman had in his left boot, and the hiccups make Spiderman accidentally discharge globs of webbing on himself.


Well, thumbs up for your post 👆 . I don't agree with one bit of it lol, but at least you made a very serious effort.

Now, this is how I see it:

Spider-Man sees Batman and webs him up in half a second time. Then he slings to the Batcave and kicks Alfred out and fixes himself a drink.

Batman is great at setting up death-traps. But one of my favorite quotes of Spider-Man is "Come on, I have been dancing through death traps for ages."

Once Spider-Man gets too close, Batman won't stand a chance.

Don't forget Spider-Man is a genius too. Faster, stronger, more agile, experienced to the bone, reflexes, spider-sense, superhuman durability... the combination of these things will make him the winner of this battle.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Well, thumbs up for your post 👆 . I don't agree with one bit of it lol, but at least you made a very serious effort.

Now, this is how I see it:

Spider-Man sees Batman and webs him up in half a second time. Then he slings to the Batcave and kicks Alfred out and fixes himself a drink.

Batman is great at setting up death-traps. But one of my favorite quotes of Spider-Man is "Come on, I have been dancing through death traps for ages."

Once Spider-Man gets too close, Batman won't stand a chance.

Don't forget Spider-Man is a genius too. Faster, stronger, more agile, experienced to the bone, reflexes, spider-sense, superhuman durability... the combination of these things will make him the winner of this battle.

Hey, at least you read it LOL.
Anyways, you asked for one realistic way that Batman could take down Spiderman with 18days of prep. I gave one that was not only realistic, but so realistic that our government (huge assumption that you live in the US) has DARPA working on it. And the effect would not only make Spiderman's agility go to zero, but it would also negate his much talked about spidersense.
Making him a fool for Batman.

I also went ahead and gave ways that COMICS (not real life ...comics) could have Batman win.
In this case realism goes outside the window.
For example they made SPIDERMAN win against SUPERMAN through some ridiculous PIS called a red-ray. Comeon .......Kal El is as beyond Peter Parker as a Lamborghini Gallardo is beyond a car drawn by a first-grader, but they had Spidey win.
A penciller could easily do the same ......in fact they could do ANYTHING.
I also gave the example of how the F4 beat Galactus .....an entity that consumes worlds ....with a 'nullifier ray.'

To conclude I answered the question in 2 ways:

1)The first showed a realistic way that in the REAL WORLD could work against even FICTIONAL characters in comics. A real thing that can work against fiction. That is quite rare, but I offered it.

2) The second thing was to show that even such a level of realism was unnecessary, since in comics most of the writers (apart from a certain few) do not add any real degree of realism to their work (since they know most of the readers would probably not even appreciate it .....for example imagine how Wolverine8888 would feel if Marvel made Wolverine more 'realistic.' Goodness, he almost had a coronary when Marvel recently had Ultimate Hulk rip Wolverine in two LOL).
Also note that Spiderman ....Spiderman himself .....had to rely on PIS to stand against Superman. In reality Superman could take out Spiderman in exactly the same way (and the same time) he would need to squish a bug. But due to some 'red ray' Spiderman was punching Superman.

Conclusion: Who is the better physical specimen? Easy .....Spiderman is beyong Batman in terms of physical ability.
If they bumped into each other, and both were written to their utmost, who would win? Well, Spiderman.
However, can Batman win with 18 days of prep? Again, if written to their utmost (and note that prep is Batman's forte), then Batman can win against Spiderman.
The only question is will he win in a realistic way, or an unrealistic (read: standard comic writing) manner? Either way Batman would win with 18 days of prep.

But hey ....we can agree to disagree. LOL.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Hey, at least you read it LOL.

Of course I did. I appreciate a non-fanboy counter move.
Anyways, you asked for one realistic way that Batman could take down Spiderman with 18days of prep.

Yes.
I gave one that was not only realistic, but so realistic that our government (huge assumption that you live in the US) has DARPA working on it.

Not true. You assumed Spider-Man would be just standing there, waiting for Batmans set up.
And the effect would not only make Spiderman's agility go to zero, but it would also negate his much talked about spidersense. Making him a fool for Batman.

IF Batman manages to get rid of the spider-sense, Spider-Man is still way beyond Batman in almost every way. He remains too dangerous for Batman to handle.
Also note that Spiderman ....Spiderman himself .....had to rely on PIS to stand against Superman.

True. I never liked that comic. It was just a lame excuse to let the two characters fight each other. Superman is as much out of Spider-Mans' league as Spider-Man is out of Batmans.

Cross overs are fun to read. But we just can't take them seriously.

Conclusion: Who is the better physical specimen? Easy .....Spiderman is beyong Batman in terms of physical ability.

Aha, we agree lol.
If they bumped into each other, and both were written to their utmost, who would win? Well, Spiderman.

And we keep agreeing.
However, can Batman win with 18 days of prep? Again, if written to their utmost (and note that prep is Batman's forte), then Batman can win against Spiderman.

Yes, but the keyword is can. His preptime plans are not waterproof. Spider-Man is very unpredictable.
The only question is will he win in a realistic way, or an unrealistic manner?

Well, if Batman wins, it's unrealistic lol.
But hey ....we can agree to disagree. LOL.

Never ! 😉

batman takes it if he has common knowledge of spidey. batman dies so bad if it's a who are you match.