Originally posted by Lana
That only works if you believe in God. If someone doesn't, than all that flies out the window.And are you seriously asking what human has the ability to change the future? Try everyone.
BTW, how many times are you going to post "fin" and then return to the thread?
I meant travel to the future/past or change the past.
And I'll keep posting fin..until I'm done posting in the thread..😆
Fin
Originally posted by whobdamandog
That's the flaw with Modern Relativistic/Skeptic philosophies. It is already assumed that we have the ABILITY to perceive the logic behind what makes up time/space/reality/perception etc. That is a HUUUGE assumption. An assumption that is just based on FAITH.
Faith is ones individual perspective of the universe, so it is not a problem for relativism to made assumptions based on faith.
Your assumption that "Absolute truths exist" is based on you faith on that assumption.
Whob, you are blind in your passion to merely proove yourself. All these meaningless questions are ridiculing your intelligence. "State/capitol" is just a linguistic designation, just a name, not an ultimate reality extending into the universe and cannot proof or disproof existential theories. Therefor, for as long as you do not open up your mind to greater possibilities than mere worldly and conventional reasoning, you will not see the relative, nor the absolute truth.
Go well, my fellow suffering human being.
Originally posted by Lana
And are you seriously asking what human has the ability to change the future? Try everyone.
Actually..now that I think about it..I'm not sure if it really possible for a human to change the future..if you think about it. As Einstein suggested..time itself..is just a "Relative" concept to the one who created it. So what would be the "future" to us..could be the "past" to an Intelligent Designer. The concept of time would just be "Relative" to him.
So in theory..if you think about it..we really don't even have the ability to change the Future..Everything is really guided by this force that controls/created time.
As Einstein put it ..
"Past/Present/Future are just illusions..albeit..very good ones.."
(I'm paraphrasing so please forgive me if this is not exactly what he said)
Fin
Originally posted by crazylozer
Ok, I have it, build the sphere around you. You don't go through it, you simply exist inside the sphere.
That's good thinking..but your assuming the sphere doesn't already exist, and isn't in front of you.
However..let's say perhaps you did build a sphere around yourself..can you now tell me of another way to get out of it..without actually going through it?
Originally posted by Wonderer
Whob, you are blind in your passion to merely proove yourself. All these meaningless questions are ridiculing your intelligence. "State/capitol" is just a linguistic designation, just a name, not an ultimate reality extending into the universe and cannot proof or disproof existential theories. Therefor, for as long as you do not open up your mind to greater possibilities than mere worldly and conventional reasoning, you will not see the relative, nor the absolute truth.Go well, my fellow suffering human being.
I'm very open minded my friend..however..I accept the fact that we are indeed subjected to various ABSOLUTES/LAWS that govern this universe that we live in.
You and others have not given me any "proof" supporting how your suggestions/perceptions/beliefs/sceptism can effect these absolutes/laws.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
You and others have not given me any "proof" supporting how your suggestions/perceptions/beliefs/sceptism can effect these absolutes/laws.
Pick one definition of proof, and we give you the answer.
I wanted to ask you something about how you view absolute truths... Do you perceive these absolute truths ?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I thought you had a good point. 😄 That's most likely why whob never responded to you. 😉
Thank you for aknowledging my post. In fact i was going to post a big pornographic picture just to make sure i was or was not being ignored.
But who can tell ? was I being overlooked ? Is there any relation of my post with the topic that could make it relaitive; cause i was sure it was an Absolute In Relation to the thread.
Originally posted by GCG
Thank you for aknowledging my post. In fact i was going to post a big pornographic picture just to make sure i was or was not being ignored.But who can tell ? was I being overlooked ? Is there any relation of my post with the topic that could make it relaitive; cause i was sure it was an Absolute In Relation to the thread.
You could say "we worship you all mightily whobdamandog. Your wisdom and mental powers are far beyond us.". But beyond that, it will not do any good. I simple think he didn't understand what you were talking about. 😆
When you get into the world of the very small, then relativism is the law of the land, because you don’t really know anything. Did I understand your post, or was it over my head too? 😄
Originally posted by Atlantis001
Pick one definition of proof, and we give you the answer.I wanted to ask you something about how you view absolute truths... Do you perceive these absolute truths ?
Well in this particular debate..we would define proof to be the "following"
Determination of the quality of something by testing; trial: put one's beliefs to the proof.
Case in point.
My belief of someone falling to to the ground after jumping from a window. Has been proven by testing.
Your belief of someone being able to defy the laws of gravity, has not been proven by testing.
Therefore..my belief would be deemed an "true"..and your belief would be deemed "false"
Doesn't matter if you believe in the possibility of one defying the laws of gravity. Your belief/perception/speculation...has no effect on these laws of gravity. That's the point.
That's why Philisophical Relativity/Sceptism, are practically useless concepts when attempting to evaluate the laws that make up the Universe. They have no ability to change these laws.
Understand?
Now if you can give me an example of how your perception/sceptism/doubts can change the laws of gravity....
Originally posted by GCG
Thank you for aknowledging my post. In fact i was going to post a big pornographic picture just to make sure i was or was not being ignored.But who can tell ? was I being overlooked ? Is there any relation of my post with the topic that could make it relaitive; cause i was sure it was an Absolute In Relation to the thread.
Actually it wasn't overlooked I've just been overworked in responding to so many different posts. The question was really kind of answered in another post..but let me repeat it for you.
Essentially what the equation 2 + 2 = 4 boils down to is this simple mathematical equation.
a + b = c
Regardless of what values a or b denote..they will always equal c.
For example..
Let's say
a = 2 Hydrogen Atoms
b = 2 Oxygen Atoms
c = H 2 O (Water)
So for instance..if we take 2 hydrogen atoms and combine them with 2 Oxygen atoms..then we will always get water.
That's the logic behind my question in a nutshell.
I don't believe you balanced out the chemical equation that you gave earlier..but perhaps you did and I overlooked it.
Anyway..as the law of conservation of matter states...
"Matter can neither be created or destroyed"
Therefore...even if we couldn't find everything that make's up "C" after adding A + B together. The remainder of C..is out there somewhere..based on this scientific law mentioned above.
So in summary A + B will always = C. This is an ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
A + B will never = C + D + E + F..etc...
No getting around this basic concept.
Understand?
(Note..excuse me if I didn't include a balanced chemical equation..its been a while since I have actually done one.)