Originally posted by Mišt
Ohh......Favorite movie....I was thinking Best movie or something, cause theres no way it should get Best.....What nominees were in the Drama category? I wouldnt've have picked ROTS to get a drama award 😑
[edit] Ah..People's Choice....I should really read things first....
Well who cares then....
Actually it pretty much the only one that matters these days as it's an accounting of the publics feelings regarding TV and Film for the last year, while the more traditional award shows have gotten so political it isnt even funny. Not to mention the vast majority of the public dosent visit fan sites.
The other choices for best dramatic film were Coach Carter and Batman Begins.
Your quite right there, although lets not turn this into another anti-PT thread.
Both movies are from big franchises, and both franchises have been suffering over recent years; well only idiots enjoyed the PT (joke!), and lets face it, the last two Batman films were awful.
So what film freshens up the franchise better?
RotS; the end of the SW film franchise (or so were told) and all in all, not a bad movie, yet its reliance on CGI, underwhelming and inconstant actors and performances and it's comparisons with the OT, not to mention the huge limitations of making prequels (we know how lives, who dies). On the upside it has some nice design ideas (not including Grievous; eugh!), some nice set pieces and a whole lotta nostalgia.
Or....
Batman Begins; Having to darken up Gotham City a bit, after Kilmer and Clooney's last outings as the caped crusader turned into ahomo-erotic icon in both Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. Chris Nolan has gone back to basics, creatingan intelligent script, a good story, a new batmobile that actually looks practical, reigning in an excellent Bruce Wayne with Christian Bale, added Morgan Freeman in there somewhere (always works), and managed to keep hold of Micheal Cane so he doesnt over do things. On the slight downside, it does feel like a big blockbuster and not a lot more unless you get into the comics. It does lack a certain epic, magic, mythic thingme-jig.
Star Wars has a greater audience for sure, you just have to look at the box office numbers to see that. Many people had given up on Batman altogether, and while many would have been put off of Star Wars from the last two movies... well, come on... it's STAR WARS! And the last one ever! I think people were seeing this as a sort of cinematic event, a culmination of something truly grande, something that would go down in the books no matter how good the final product was and they wanted in on it... or maybe that was just me.
But there's also the fact that SW has a much greater internet-geek fanbase meaning, because the votes were tabulated from an online poll, it was bound to get more votes.
Yeah you are right Ast about 'not needing rescuing', however what if RotS had been as dire as TPM and AotC, then the PT would have been a huge joke.
To have two trilogies as part of one saga, and have one saga excellent, mind blowing and emotive and another bland, lacking in story and emotion....the comparisons would have been horrid.
Sweetheart, you referring to TPM and ATOC as "dire" is silly. As I stated before, the majority of the movie going public doesnt sit around like the rest of us geeks fine combing everything out of a film. They go and if they are entertained, thats all that matters to them. EVERY single Star Wars movie was entertaining the the MAJORITY to of the public. Definitely NOT to the "geekdom" but to the public they were. The amount of money they hauled in provides the proof and absolutely nothing can change that.
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Sweetheart, you referring to TPM and ATOC as "dire" is silly. As I stated before, [B]the majority of the movie going public doesnt sit around like the rest of us geeks fine combing everything out of a film. They go and if they are entertained, thats all that matters to them. EVERY single Star Wars movie was entertaining the the MAJORITY to of the public. Definitely NOT to the "geekdom" but to the public they were. The amount of money they hauled in provides the proof and absolutely nothing can change that. [/B]
Actually mother dearest you are wrong. The ordinary public do not necessarily enjoy the PT, if anything it's the other way round. Have you ever noticed how 'ordinary' people refer to the PT as 'oh, yeah the new ones....not very good are they', they do not give a satisfying response including details about how cool something is, e.g. Han Solo or Obi-Wan's mullet, or anything else generic like that (reason they wouldn't give a deeper response is that SW is not really multi-layered).
I'm always concered why most of the SW fans enjoy the PT as much as they do, looking at it through a fanboyish perspective, while i and a few others just look at it for what it is, a film.
Originally posted by Jedi PriestessThe fact that the movie performed well at the box office does not reflect directly on the satisfaction of the 'general public'. Like I said earlier these aren't mere films, they are part of cinematic history. Some people would have just gone to see them because of that (particularly episode I). And fanboys who went to see the film more than once also would have had a major influence on the BO numbers...
Sweetheart, you referring to TPM and ATOC as "dire" is silly. As I stated before, [B]the majority of the movie going public doesnt sit around like the rest of us geeks fine combing everything out of a film. They go and if they are entertained, thats all that matters to them. EVERY single Star Wars movie was entertaining the the MAJORITY to of the public. Definitely NOT to the "geekdom" but to the public they were. The amount of money they hauled in provides the proof and absolutely nothing can change that. [/B]
I agree with exanda, most (if not ALL) people I've talked about the movies with who aren't die-hard SW fans dont think much of the 'new ones'.