Namor vs. Hulk

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
[B]Please. Namor doesn't even try to struggle. He smashed him in the wall, then he noted Vashti. Namor's legs were free, his other hand was free, but there he was, lying all limp, no fighting spirit left in him. That was because he had just saw perhaps his greatest friend and mentor as monster.

As was said before. It's Hulk 9/10 on the land, Namor 6/10 underwater. He's got a chance, but only underwater...because no one is stronger than the Hulk! 😄

Originally posted by Melnorme
Revisionist take on it. He got slammed into a wall and went "all limp" before he even saw Vashti and gave his little exclamation. The panel speaks for itself. He got rocked, no matter how much you chase your tail trying to prove it isn't so.

You usually go limp when you go smashed into somewhere. Doesn't meant that he could not recover from it. But he continued being limp because of the shock of seeing Vashti.

He was fine two panels later.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You usually go limp when you go smashed into somewhere. Doesn't meant that he could not recover from it. But he continued being limp because of the shock of seeing Vashti.

He was fine two panels later.

Yet Hulk carried the momentum at that moment since it was Namor who got slammed, not Hulk. Because of that, Hulk would have been able to strike at least one more time.

When Hulk slammed Namor, it was a harder hit than any he had received during the fight because.... Hulk continues to get stronger during his fights. The longer they take, the greater the chance of Hulk winning. If you look at the scans, once Hulk realizes his blood was used he gets really pissed really quickly and the fight quickly turns in his favor.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Yet Hulk carried the momentum at that moment since it was Namor who got slammed, not Hulk. Because of that, Hulk would have been able to strike at least one more time.

When Hulk slammed Namor, it was a harder hit than any he had received during the fight because.... Hulk continues to get stronger during his fights. The longer they take, the greater the chance of Hulk winning. If you look at the scans, once Hulk realizes his blood was used he gets really pissed really quickly and the fight quickly turns in his favor.

The smash hurt Namor. But it's not like it would have gotten him out of the game. Or the punch. Hulk has punched Namor numerous times and Namor has been knocked out maybe once(not sure if he was knocked out or was he just in pain with his eyes closed)...and even then he recovered faster then Hulk. And 80% in fights between Hulk and Namor are Savage Hulk who gets madder all the time. Namor has yet lost.

The fight turned into Namor's favor at there, but the fight ended in stalemate. Just because someone gets upper hand in some point of the battle, they don't neccessary automatically win it. Namor's taken far worse blows then the blow that Hulk could have put there, and survived well. He was just taken by suprise.

I guess all that's left to argue is whether the level of strength that Hulk had reached at that point (he became very angry when he found out they used his blood for their purposes) would have been enough to knock out Namor. If it was not, how much longer before he did knock Namor out? Hulk's strength was continuing to go up... look at the way the muscles on his back were flexing.. he was gonna really let one go.

Originally posted by scotsmn
I guess all that's left to argue is whether the level of strength that Hulk had reached at that point (he became very angry when he found out they used his blood for their purposes) would have been enough to knock out Namor. If it was not, how much longer before he did knock Namor out? Hulk's strength was continuing to go up... look at the way the muscles on his back were flexing.. he was gonna really let one go.

But would that one knocked Namor out?

This one didn't:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2039/namorfeat367wt.gif

Of course, if the Hulk gets on the planet exploding shots...then he will probably knock out Namor.

It's also here that Namor seemed to be knocked out also:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

But he recovered faster then Hulk, who was still flying when Namor recovered.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Namor doesn't have stamina?

He has infinite stamina in water...

I don't know what you are talking about... 😕

And he surely has enough raw power to take on Hulk.

sure he does. until hulk surpasses him the longer the fight goes. namor punches him and he heals almost instantly. it's a dead end

But what if Namor knocks him out before he gets to high levels:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But would that one knocked Namor out?

This one didn't:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2039/namorfeat367wt.gif

Of course, if the Hulk gets on the planet exploding shots...then he will probably knock out Namor.

It's also here that Namor seemed to be knocked out also:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3936/incrediblehulk118195ly.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9269/incrediblehulk118200el.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4384/incrediblehulk118211kg.jpg

But he recovered faster then Hulk, who was still flying when Namor recovered.

Thor's hammer vs an enraged Hulk's fist may not be the same level of impact.

Namor recovered faster than Hulk because he was in the WATER while Hulk was knocked upwards and landed on the land.

Keep in mind that was the old stupid hulk, not the smart version he's fighting in their most recent encounter.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But what if Namor knocks him out before he gets to high levels:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg

that's one of the many versions of hulk. he's been vaporized and healed back in one minute.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But what if Namor knocks him out before he gets to high levels:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg

who ever made this thread needs to be more specific: is it war hulk, savage hulk, mindless hulk, enraged hulk, grey hulk, banner hulk?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But what if Namor knocks him out before he gets to high levels:

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/2563/incrediblehulk118187ji.jpg

Like I said, Namor would have the odds in the water, but on the land, he would lose.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Thor's hammer vs an enraged Hulk's fist may not be the same level of impact.

The impact that the hammer made was pretty damn strong. It leveled the entire ground.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Namor recovered faster than Hulk because he was in the WATER while Hulk was knocked upwards and landed on the land.

And thats the point. Namor recovers faster because of the water. He has healing factor there.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Keep in mind that was the old stupid hulk, not the smart version he's fighting in their most recent encounter.

But their punches have the same effect, no?

Originally posted by Melnorme
Like I said, Namor would have the odds in the water, but on the land, he would lose.

I know, but I think we left that issue a long ago... 🙂

I think we are discussing if the Hulk would have won that fight in Annual if Namor was not distracted.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I know, but I think we left that issue a long ago... 🙂

I think we are discussing if the Hulk would have won that fight in Annual if Namor was not distracted.

Well, if that's the case.

I agree, he certainly could have, but I think he was pretty hard up. With all due respect to your very sound observations, if Namor hadn't pulled a "what in the world is that over there!?" schtick to keep the Hulk from hammering his head, repeatedly, into that rock, the pummeling would have likely bested even the great Scion of Atlantis. The Hulk had the jump on him, and had him held pretty snugly between a proverbial rock and a hard place. He might have tried to break the Hulk's grasp, but that would necessarily leave his head pretty unguarded for that first punch. He could have blocked the punches, but then he would be too preoccupied to break that hold any time soon.

I think the Hulk almost surely had him. Namor could have gotten lucky, of course, but even with his formidable skills, it would have taken more than a little luck to be able to rally and beat the Hulk.

But that's just one man's opinion. 😉

Originally posted by scotsmn
Thor's hammer vs an enraged Hulk's fist may not be the same level of impact.

Namor recovered faster than Hulk because he was in the WATER while Hulk was knocked upwards and landed on the land.

Keep in mind that was the old stupid hulk, not the smart version he's fighting in their most recent encounter.

the "smart" Hulk is the prof i assume, will be whipped.

Originally posted by Melnorme
Well, if that's the case.

I agree, he certainly could have, but I think he was pretty hard up. With all due respect to your very sound observations, if Namor hadn't pulled a "what in the world is that over there!?" schtick to keep the Hulk from hammering his head, repeatedly, into that rock, the pummeling would have likely bested even the great Scion of Atlantis. The Hulk had the jump on him, and had him held pretty snugly between a proverbial rock and a hard place. He might have tried to break the Hulk's grasp, but that would necessarily leave his head pretty unguarded for that first punch. He could have blocked the punches, but then he would be too preoccupied to break that hold any time soon.

I think the Hulk almost surely had him. Namor could have gotten lucky, of course, but even with his formidable skills, it would have taken more than a little luck to be able to rally and beat the Hulk.

But that's just one man's opinion. 😉

Namor going down without a fight? Beats me..... Hulk landing a punch on Namor will be a toss-up. Which i think namor cld pretty much duck.

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Originally posted by joesha28
Namor going down without a fight? Beats me..... Hulk landing a punch on Namor will be a toss-up. Which i think namor cld pretty much duck.

Not sure if you realized, but that was in reference to this scan:

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/5605/namorwaterhulk7gi.gif

I looked at it..... was Namor even bothered to fight Hulk? Taking a punch from Hulk is something to worry abt. That was coming imminently but Namor just look behind Hulk?