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Quite true, PVS.

Anyone who has been there, genuinely, isn't here anymore. Unless of course they genuinely did fail suicide.

Which I'm not sure if Syren has or not. So I won't assume anything.

Faceless: Stop saying emo in that context. It's a music genre, nothing more.

Originally posted by StaT1c
So, if you've define Emo about 10 times, mind copying/pasting your definition? I just want to read your perspective on this music genre, nothing more.

Go search the off-topic forum. If you still can't find it, I'll PM you it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Quite true, PVS.

Anyone who has been there, genuinely, isn't here anymore. Unless of course they genuinely did fail suicide.

most failed suicides are a cry for help imho.
its not too difficult to end yourself instantly with no chance of resussitation. all those people who cut their wrists 'across the street' and not 'down the block' are a prime example.

i'm not saying its not something serious regardless, but no comparrisos to someone who'll blow his head off with a gun. thats someone who has his mind made up.

I do agree, but I'm saying that failing suicide, genuinely, is not an impossibility.

If this does happen, I do think to myself "Why not pick a surefire way?". No pun intended. That's a whole other debate though.

Most are a cry for help, yes I agree. It does happen though, genuine failed suicides.

-AC

Originally posted by PVS
most failed suicides are a cry for help imho.
its not too difficult to end yourself instantly with no chance of resussitation. all those people who cut their wrists 'across the street' and not 'down the block' are a prime example.

not saying its not something serious regardless, but no comparriso to someone who'll blow his head off with a gun. thats someone who has his mind made up.

True for the most part.

People often jump off a bridge into water. Better idea, jump off something...onto the floor.

The urge to stay alive isn't going to help you in that scenario, nor resuscitation.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I do agree, but I'm saying that failing suicide, genuinely, is not an impossibility.

If this does happen, I do think to myself "Why not pick a surefire way?". No pun intended. That's a whole other debate though.

Most are a cry for help, yes I agree. It does happen though, genuine failed suicides.

-AC

oh im sure. thus the word 'most'

Originally posted by PVS
most failed suicides are a cry for help imho.
its not too difficult to end yourself instantly with no chance of resussitation. all those people who cut their wrists 'across the street' and not 'down the block' are a prime example.

i'm not saying its not something serious regardless, but no comparrisos to someone who'll blow his head off with a gun. thats someone who has his mind made up.

You have a point.. But your descriptions made me feel very ill...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I do agree, but I'm saying that failing suicide, genuinely, is not an impossibility.

If this does happen, I do think to myself "Why not pick a surefire way?". No pun intended. That's a whole other debate though.

Most are a cry for help, yes I agree. It does happen though, genuine failed suicides.

-AC

Yep.....

And as for the question of why someone would do so....it is a case of not being in your right mind. Unless you have been down that road, you cannot imagine how utterly horrible someone must be feeling about life in general and how depressed they are to think that ending their life is the only option. When someone's that messed up, they usually think that they're removing a burden from the lives of others, not placing more worries on them.

emo is a way of life for some people they live by emo(their music as u say) but the become "emo" they like the label its a group and think of other cliques....prep ( none of them are actually preppies from a prep school.)....jock(not all of them are clueless and good at sports..but they dress the same projectuing that image...similiar to emo) i got a dozen more if u need any more examples.... GOTH ( goth is a culture of the past a religion, a type of architecture.) but they were under roman control and pushed of the point of normality and driven to rebel against their captors. Much like the goths, they rebel because they fell they have to.!!

Seeing as we are seemingly in the 'suicide' thread now:

Can someone commit suicide in 'right mind'?

What does anyone make of the case of R Budd Dwyer(unrelated question)?

Originally posted by Faceless
emo is a way of life for some people they live by emo(their music as u say) but the become "emo" they like the label its a group and think of other cliques....prep ( none of them are actually preppies from a prep school.)....jock(not all of them are clueless and good at sports..but they dress the same projectuing that image...similiar to emo) i got a dozen more if u need any more examples.... GOTH ( goth is a culture of the past a religion, a type of architecture.) but they were under roman control and pushed of the point of normality and driven to rebel against their captors. Much like the goths, they rebel because they fell they have to.!!

No, just stop. Emo is a music genre, not an image nor a lifestyle. Going and describing ACTUAL lifestyles does not make emo a lifestyle.

Step two, possibly three paces away from the comp and then go stand facing the wall until you've decided not to talk stupidness in a way that isn't contributing to the thread.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Seeing as we are seemingly in the 'suicide' thread now:

Can someone commit suicide in 'right mind'?

What does anyone make of the case of R Budd Dwyer(unrelated question)?

in a case of self sacrifice, yes. also, in the case of sparing yourself a more painful inevitable death...other than that...i cant see how

'Life is like animal porn: it's not for everybody.' - Doug Stanhope.

Originally posted by PVS
*checks syren's pulse*

clearly you havent

Like I said before, I got to the point where the only option left was to end it. And I didn't. Am I being blasted because I decided that maybe I had something to live for?

You're passing judgement on me, calling me self righteous, and yet you blatantly tell me I can't have been suicidal because I'm not dead? What the hell kind of f.ucked up logic is that?

DOnt u tell me stop anything who the hell r u did u make this thread, ! and even if u did who cares its a public forum...in ur opinion emo is a music genere in mine its a culture a group so do not tell me that mt thoughts and opinions are wrong okay? Because if you do it further proves that your are ignorant and are prbably....republican

People WHO attempt suicide, dont do it for attention. Its that they think they are in a hole they cannot get out of.

Originally posted by Syren
Like I said before, I got to the point where the only option left was to end it. And I didn't. Am I being blasted because I decided that maybe I had something to live for?

Then ending it quite clearly wasn't your only option was it? Think about what you just said. "I got to the point where the ONLY option left was to end it." Fine...."And I didn't." You chose not to, so you had another option.

-AC

Originally posted by GCG
People WHO attempt suicide, dont do it for attention. Its that they think they are in a hole they cannot get out of.

Sometimes... there are some who attempt suicide in the hope that they will be found, helped, and then fussed over because of what they did. Which is why it's so difficult to differentiate between people who genuinely need help and attention seekers, I suppose.

Originally posted by Syren
Like I said before, I got to the point where the only option left was to end it. And I didn't. Am I being blasted because I decided that maybe I had something to live for?

You're passing judgement on me, calling me self righteous, and yet you blatantly tell me I can't have been suicidal because I'm not dead? What the hell kind of f.ucked up logic is that?

hmmm, ok its time to go back and read my post again. this time read the words that are actually written instead of filling in the blanks as you glaze over. you are arguing with your own assumptions and not my post im sorry to say.

and since you still had an instinct of self preservation (you being alive) then you have not reached that point. unless you were caught in the process of attempting---well whatever the case it isnt anyone's business but yours.

i was bashing the bashers of a kid who killed himself.
you can either read the post in question again or you can continue
this dramatic tyrade...but your only arguing imaginary points.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then ending it quite clearly wasn't your only option was it? Think about what you just said. "I got to the point where the ONLY option left was to end it." Fine...."And I didn't." You chose not to, so you had another option.

-AC

True.. but surely that's a good thing? I got to the point where I thought my only option was to end it.

I was helped, I had people who were there for me. I guess you could say I was lucky.

Originally posted by Syren
Sometimes... there are some who attempt suicide in the hope that they will be found, helped, and then fussed over because of what they did. Which is why it's so difficult to differentiate between people who genuinely need help and attention seekers, I suppose.

From what I've noticed, there is one very good way to tell the difference between the attention seekers and those who genuinely need help -- the amount of attention they call to it.