Namor vs Colossus

Originally posted by snoopdogg
King Sasquatches blows did not effect Colossus.

Did he looked hurt or staggered? You said Sasquatch got right back up after the judo throw unharmed. Which he did. Colossus got right back up after Sasquatches hit unharmed also. He was just a punk kid at the time anyways.

Cyclops told him to change his game plan and once he did that the fight changed.

No, they didn't. Due to Walter was toying with him the entire time and not taking it serious. This was Walter's first apperance and his transformations still hurt him and he himself was inexperienced being Sasquatch.

He can judo toss Sasquatch all day and it sill wouldn't beat him. It still was not a good showing for Colossus.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Fighting Namor in the water or showing scans of his speed in the water are like showing scans of sundipped Supes. The water is the source of Namors power cause without it he dies.

You understand now.

And...I assume that Namor in this fight is straight from water...his natural form. He is as fast in land as he is on water in terms of hand movement speed.

Superman on the sun is not natural Supes. Namor in water is natural Namor. That's where he was born...Namor on land is actually the unnatural form.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, they didn't. Due to Walter was toying with him the entire time and not taking it serious. This was Walter's first apperance and his transformations still hurt him and he himself was inexperienced being Sasquatch.

He can judo toss Sasquatch all day and it sill wouldn't beat him. It still was not a good showing for Colossus.

The pic was supposed to show Colossus' fighting ability. I never once said he beat Walter. Did I?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandWolverineXM24.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandWolverineXM242.jpg

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And...I assume that Namor in this fight is straight from water...his natural form. He is as fast in land as he is on water in terms of [b]hand movement speed.

Superman on the sun is not natural Supes. Namor in water is natural Namor. That's where he was born...Namor on land is actually the unnatural form. [/B]

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea but the Sun is where Superman is the strongest and water is where Namor is strongest.

It's still Namor's natural habitats, and you can't say that he is "enhanced" in some way when showing sea feats.

All feats that Namor does on land are in fact weakened Namor doing those feats. It's like saying that Hulk's feats are not valid because he is angry in them...

And it doesn't change the fact that he is able to move his hands as fast or near as fast on land.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It's still Namor's natural habitats, and you can't say that he is "enhanced" in some way when showing sea feats.

All feats that Namor does on land are in fact weakened Namor doing those feats. It's like saying that Hulk's feats are not valid because he is angry in them...

And it doesn't change the fact that he is able to move his hands as fast or near as fast on land.

Namor is at his strongest when in contact with water. Superman is at his strongest when he is closest to the Sun.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Namor can survive on land just the same as he can in water. All he needs to do is carry a squirt gun with him and he has no problems.

Namor is at his strongest when in contact with water. Superman is at his strongest when he is closest to the Sun.

Yes, but as he doesn't have squirt gun with him, all feats done by Namor in land are not natural Namor which is: weakened Namor. Namor in sea is real Namor. It doesn't matter if he is strongest there.

My jaw drops at the staggering level of fanboyism that's been allowed to crop up around Colossus here.

The guy is like a snail to Namor. He couldn't move fast enough to hit him once. Namor could punch the guy ten times in his face before Colossus completes one swing. Colossus is too used to relying on his invulnerability. When was the last time he had to get out of something's way? Up against an opponent who can match him in strength and toughness, and more than outdo him in speed, Colossus is outclassed.

Originally posted by Piedmon
My jaw drops at the staggering level of fanboyism that's been allowed to crop up around Colossus here.

The guy is like a snail to Namor. He couldn't move fast enough to hit him once. Namor could punch the guy ten times in his face before Colossus completes one swing. Colossus is too used to relying on his invulnerability. When was the last time he had to get out of something's way? Up against an opponent who can match him in strength and toughness, and more than outdo him in speed, Colossus is outclassed.

Well in Colossus's defence, Namor rarely uses his speed when fighting another powerhouse. He slugs it out with the rest of them. Does pretty well at that. Imagine if he did use the speed all the time.

Originally posted by Piedmon
My jaw drops at the staggering level of fanboyism that's been allowed to crop up around Colossus here.

I think your just mad at the scans I just posted of Colossus beatin Wolverine again.

Originally posted by Piedmon

The guy is like a snail to Namor. He couldn't move fast enough to hit him once. Namor could punch the guy ten times in his face before Colossus completes one swing. Colossus is too used to relying on his invulnerability. When was the last time he had to get out of something's way? Up against an opponent who can match him in strength and toughness, and more than outdo him in speed, Colossus is outclassed.

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
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Originally posted by jrodslam
Given.

However Namor on land is still quite faster and stronger than Colossus. Although he usually slugs it out when it comes to the likes of Hulk, Thing, etc, he still has advantages. Granted how Namor fights Thing on land and usually have the advantage. Im not completely saying that the results would be the same, but considering Thing is as strong as Colossus, and has better fighting ability, it can be a natural statement to say that Namor would always have an advantage over him just as he does with Thing.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Darkcrawler are you a fanboy? You must be if you think Colossus is a snail next to Namor.

Umm...but he is...hello, Namor is fast enough to operate on MAJOR Mach speeds...able to grab missiles...able to complete with WWII airplanes...able to punch dozen times in a moment.

Maybe a snail is exaggeration, but Colossus's speed is nothing compared to Namor.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Umm...but he is...hello, Namor is fast enough to operate on MAJOR Mach speeds...able to grab missiles...able to complete with WWII airplanes...able to punch dozen times in a moment.

Maybe a snail is exaggeration, but Colossus's speed is nothing compared to Namor.

If that was the case, people like Cap wouldn't be able to get close to him ! 🙂

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Walter is only weakened when he first transforms. He was transformed for a good time when the fight occured. So it's not likely he was weakened. Sasquatch threw the first punch with a cheap shot anyways.

The pic was supposed to show Colossus' fighting ability. I never once said he beat Walter. Did I?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandWolverineXM24.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/ColossusandWolverineXM242.jpg

Actually Sasquatch at first was in great pain when he first transformed and could only reach a point in meditation to bring himself back or to the form of Sasquatch. Well considering he has lifted 5000 tons and 250 tons and Colossus at the time could only lift 70....He would have to be pretty damn weakened. Well that can be explained with him not taking this fight serious. Cheap shot? I know you like Colossus, but cheap shot? good lord. How is it a cheap shot when Colossus starts the fight and he was ready for a fight and Sasquatch walks over and hits him face to face. I like you man, but now your just grasping at straws. If he hit him from behind or when his guard was down, fine that's understanable. However, he was ready and then Sas follows up with another hit on the bottom panel.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm121pg07.jpg

No you implied he fought him on a even playing field, when Sasquatch outpowered him. Also what do those scans prove? Sas has beaten Wolverine twice? No way was I saying Colossus's skills are poor, I even said in the previus page he is being underestimated.

Originally posted by Fishy 500
If that was the case, people like Cap wouldn't be able to get close to him ! 🙂

Only when Namor lets them:

http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor18vl.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor26el.gif
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor31vu.gif

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Originally posted by King_Mungi
Also what do those scans prove? Sas has beaten Wolverine twice? No way was I saying Colossus's skills are poor, I even said in the previus page he is being underestimated.

The two times you say Sasquatch beat Wolverine.

1. The first time Sasquatch ambushed him.
2. The second time he hit him when he wasn't looking.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
. Cheap shot? I know you like Colossus, but cheap shot? good lord. How is it a cheap shot when Colossus starts the fight and he was ready for a fight and Sasquatch walks over and hits him face to face. I like you man, but now your just grasping at straws. If he hit him from behind or when his guard was down, fine that's understanable. However, he was ready and then Sas follows up with another hit on the bottom panel.

Here is a pick of how the fight vs. Wolverine started. I hate Wolverine King but you forced me into it.