Originally posted by Space M ummy
Flash can't exceed the light speed barrier.The runner can and has on a regular basis. Hell, so has the surfer. Both are faster than any version of the flash.
He can exceed lightspeed.
Its just that when he does, he risks the chance of being drawn into the speedforce.
Originally posted by long pig
The Runner would go to the finish line and back 20 times before the others took the first step. Not even bullshitting.Wally can only win by getting to the speedforce and then timetraveling, but until that, Wally may as well be standing still.
The scan on page 1 would seem to show otherwise; unless they were boosting Makkari more than they should have.
That Quasar race was total PIS bullshit. In that race, it was stated that NO ONE can go faster than light.....which is just wrong. Surfer has went 350x lightspeed, Gladiator went 100x lightspeed.
The Quasar races deciding to state that nothing can go faster than light, because when one becomes one with speed one goes at the speed of light, is moronic, and in light of countless contradicting examples over and over again from multiple sources, should realistically be discounted.
Some things are just stupid writing, you accept that they are, and move on.
The Runner, without the space gem, which he only had briefly, runs across the universe in less than it takes to scream, runs across it so fast he zips from planet to faraway planet nigh instantaneously, he doesn't go into hyperspace, he doesn't use a warp drive.
He. Just. Runs. He just runs ridiculously fast. He's not "the warper", he's the Runner. It's like the Silver Surfer. Dude just surfs. He's not "The Silver FTL faking Warper" he's the Silver Surfer.
Runner's speed is by most accounts, limitless. He probably can time travel, but I've never seen it.
Flash isn't that fast, honestly. He's below normal in cosmic terms. Neither is Mikkari or Buried Alien.
I discount the race on the terms that it's contradicted in every single Marvel cosmic comic out there.