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Originally posted by Faceless
o lol then i thought so my science teachers a dumb ass then...
Before you call someone a dumb ass for being wrong, what do you call some one who is taught something, but doesn't bother to investigate it further before they try to have a discussion about it?
Are they also a dumb ass? Or just lazy?
the theory that man never went to the moon is probably the only conspiracy that i think is true....because there are some hard scientific reasons that it wasn't possible using the technology available and still isn't possible
the main one being solar radiation shielding...the Russians caluculated that once completely out of the earths magnetic shielding and thus any protection from the sun...a human would need 7 feet thick lead to protect them from the radiation....to build a capsule with this much would be impossible to lift into orbit using the rocket power available.
the other main piece of evidence that i noticed is when the lander module takes off from the moons surface...the camera pans up and follows it...thus meaning there was someone working the camera...so did they leave someone behind or was it just filmed in a dingy hollywood studio?
the astronauts do not fly during solar flares and what you may mean by radiation may come from the van allen belt, which is usually cleared in a bout 25 minutes.
The truth is that it's very expensive, very dangerous (especially with current flawed shuttle designs and how unbelievably outdated NASA's systems are-they still use transistor circuitry), and not particularly necesary in terms of science. I mean we know most everything about the moon including it's probable origins and why it's so abnormally huge for a terrestrial planet. Anything else we may need to know can be found through unmanned probes which are less expensive and don't risk human lives.
"the camera pans up and follows it"
People who think tuis sort of thing is evidence of a hoax have a severe logic failure. Do peopl;e really think that NASA is THAT stupid, as to leave such a blatant problem if it was a hoax?
How the heck can a panning camera- which can be explained in a dozen ways, including that it was designed that way- be taken as direct evidence of a hoax?
And the radiation thing is a perpetuated myth. The Russians are sour because their programme never worked out, but it was nothing to do with radiation, just practicality with the physics of it.
But no, you do not receive a lethal radiation dose on the way to the moon.
So as said, the reason we haven't been back is damn simple- there is bugger all there. Trust me, Humans will find a way to get anywhere that is useful to them. Right now, the Moon is not.
Originally posted by jaden101
the theory that man never went to the moon is probably the only conspiracy that i think is true....because there are some hard scientific reasons that it wasn't possible using the technology available and still isn't possiblethe main one being solar radiation shielding...the Russians caluculated that once completely out of the earths magnetic shielding and thus any protection from the sun...a human would need 7 feet thick lead to protect them from the radiation....to build a capsule with this much would be impossible to lift into orbit using the rocket power available.
the other main piece of evidence that i noticed is when the lander module takes off from the moons surface...the camera pans up and follows it...thus meaning there was someone working the camera...so did they leave someone behind or was it just filmed in a dingy hollywood studio?
But what about the waving flag.......
Originally posted by grey fox
But what about the waving flag.......
it wasn't waving...it had a horizontal support along the top of the flag
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/as11-40-5905HR.jpg
Intense solar flares release very-high-energy particles that can be as injurious to humans as the low-energy radiation from nuclear blasts. Earth's atmosphere and magnetosphere allow adequate protection for us on the ground, but astronauts in space are subject to potentially lethal dosages of radiation. The penetration of high-energy particles into living cells, measured as radiation dose, leads to chromosome damage and, potentially, cancer. Large doses can be fatal immediately. Solar protons with energies greater than 30 MeV are particularly hazardous. In October 1989, the Sun produced enough energetic particles that an astronaut on the Moon, wearing only a space suit and caught out in the brunt of the storm, would probably have died. (Astronauts who had time to gain safety in a shelter beneath moon soil would have absorbed only slight amounts of radiation.)
from here
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/primer/primer.html
the solar cycle is something like 11 years...we are currently in a solar minimum which means that flare and sunspot activity are at its lowest and thus at its safest levels
i think to say that the moon
john maudlin who was a physicist at NASA was the person who said that at least 2 metres of shielding would be required
there were also several other pieces of evidence put forward for the hoax theory...the landing module creating no dust updrafts while landing...many others regarding the footage taken including an astonishing claim by the australians
all of it is on this site...yes i'm aware it a conspiracy site and no i'm not turning into Deano...but its probably the only conspiracy where there us actual evidence put forward rather than total bullshit about lizards and stuff
Originally posted by Ushgarak
So as said, the reason we haven't been back is damn simple- there is bugger all there. Trust me, Humans will find a way to get anywhere that is useful to them. Right now, the Moon is not.
and that pretty much sums it up.
at the moment the moon is nothing more to us
than a giant useless rock. so why devote the
resources to accomplish what we've already accomplished?
Originally posted by PVS
and that pretty much sums it up.
at the moment the moon is nothing more to us
than a giant useless rock. so why devote the
resources to accomplish what we've already accomplished?
I don't know but Bush and NASA are planning a new set of missions there no? (think I heard stuff like that on the news a while ago)
Also haven't the chinese expressed their interest?
Originally posted by FireNASA are planning a set of missions to mars for 2020 or something. There is no reason to go back to the moon, we know more about it than we do our own planet.
I don't know but Bush and NASA are planning a new set of missions there no? (think I heard stuff like that on the news a while ago)Also haven't the chinese expressed their interest?
The whole shadow thing is complete bs. Its simply due to the moon having such a rough and uneven surface that the shadows are not parallel as they should be.
No stars in the background I hear you say lol. Anyone with the slightest knowledge of photography can easily put this one to rest. Any brightly lit foreground object must be photographed with a very short exposure time. Otherwise, the image will be badly overexposed. Any background pinpoint light sources like, say stars that are literally trillions of miles further away will not show up at all. Likewise, if the photographer wants to capture the background stars, he is going to have to use a very long exposure time, which means that the foreground will be totally washed out in one blob of overexposed light. It's really as simple as that.
Do I even have to address the camera thing, just sheer stupidity lol.
Oh but the Van Allen radiation belts I hear you say. Simple, all they had to do was send it through the belts at high speeds (25,000mph) avoiding long term exposure and keeping their dose down to just 1 rad which is below any harmful limit.
So instead of just saying oh but the radiation would kill them, do some research and rethink your opinion. 🙂
