When Wolverine fought Roughouse the time when his healing factor was taxed out and his one arm was broken I seem to recall he was flipping around and spinning on his good arm to avoid Roughouse's attacks. Some good display of martial arts skill there. He was also able to dodge Sticks attacks after he realised Stick wasn't a weak oldman and stopped letting him land his blows.
About Wolverine vs. Gammora, he has another win against her in an Alpha Flight issue (although off panel IIRC)
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
When Wolverine fought Roughouse the time when his healing factor was taxed out and his one arm was broken I seem to recall he was flipping around and spinning on his good arm to avoid Roughouse's attacks. Some good display of martial arts skill there. He was also able to dodge Sticks attacks after he realised Stick wasn't a weak oldman and stopped letting him land his blows.About Wolverine vs. Gammora, he has another win against her in an Alpha Flight issue (although off panel IIRC)
Originally posted by long pig
So, you're convinced by that fight that he does, in fact, have mastery of every known martial art known to man?
The fallowing people are the only (to my knowledge at least) Marvel characters who are said to be masters of every martial art: Captain America, Fu Manchu and I believe Dragon Fly (and all the monks at the temple where Fu Manchu was trained).
Is Wolverine a master of every martial art? Who can say? Marvel has knever said that he is in a comic book, but the have never said it about Shang Chi either and I conviced that he is. Maybe now that Wolverine has recovered all his memories (*sigh*) he'll have some idea, because up till know all he really knew was that he was damn good. There is no doubt in my mind that Wolverine is one of the top fighters in Marvel, Captian America has comment on how well Wolverine fights, so has Shang Chi heck even Stick amits that Wolverine is skilled. Just how skilled? He beat Shang Chi in there panels, had Daredevil in a full nelsion in two (after DD jumped him) owned Zaran with out getting hit (after the poison faded that is) and has beat Razor Fist a couple timies pretty easily. He has been trained by the best and he has fought the best and come out on top.
Side note: Mr. X thinks that Wolverine close enough in skilled to him and when Tasky was name dropping in their "fight", X was like "Captain America? Dare Devil? Ha! I've fought the best and beaten the best! You think to impress me with moves of men in pj's?" Yup X says Cap ain't shit
Master of all forms? Not likely......Master of many and knowlage of many more.....prolly. Think about it. He shows his skill when nessicary....(when the wrighter desires it, many just choose to have him demolish everything in his path). He seems to let his healing factor take hits in order to put him in position to end the fight. When that stratigy isn't effectve....then he seems to start going into "marial art mode". Look at it this way, he is prolly combineing many different styles. Some of the best fighters in the world....visualy look like Brawlers. It seems that they have little technique at first, look deeper and you'll see it in how they hit and thier movements. On top of that sometimes brawling has its advantiges (like when you can just heal a time consuming fatle blow and kill the guy) I think we've all seen someone with great skill get the crap beat out of him, due to the fact the other guy just rolled over him. If you can't deliver damage to an opponent and stay away from himk.....you are going to lose the fight. I think Wolvie takes that into perspective. If you can hurt him he'll fight more conservitivly, usesing his training and marial skills more pro-actively. If not......just go though them like a battering ram, its quick, thier dead....and its rather effective.
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's exactly what I meant.
Originally posted by Creshosk
That's exactly what I meant.
I can understand how some people might think Wolverine is not a master of combat. He never showed any skill in Mark Millar's run, and it seems that more and more, he is portrayed on relying heavily on his powers. However, there are some feats where he proved his skills in combat. While he may have not truly mastered every form of combat, his skills are so extraordinary that it as if he has. If you read the bio, I believe it says "virtually" every form of combat. This is not meant to say that Wolverine has studied everything from Jujitsu to kick boxing, but it means that he is really good and can give any combatant on the planet a run for their money in terms of skill alone. This was probably portrayed most recently in Frank Tieri's run of Wolverine. During the bloodsport episodes, he was taking down villians such as Toad, Puma, and some speedy foe of Spider-man's. He took them all down without using his claws. His fight with Mr.X only ended in him going berzerk beacause that's the only way Mr.X could not read his thoughts and block his moves. Other than that, he was at least Mr.X's equal in terms of skill.
On another note, the way he's often written in comics is more to show his durability and claws rather than his skill. While this does bother me, and other Wolverine fans, it is not always the case and especially if you stick with Wolverine's solo book. (Ignoring Mark Millars run completely of course). Read Wolverine - "Not dead yet", "Bloodsport", Lary Hama's Wolverine, Frank Tieri's Wolverine and early Chris Claremont's Wolverine to see him using skill.
Originally posted by spetznaz
LOL ......I doubt you'll ever see that 'list' bro.
Knowing W8888 there is no way he will show you that list.
The MOST he will do is WRITE some alleged feats and leave it at that.
If you are waiting for a 'list of feats' from him, with links and stuff, and that are pertinent to the topic ....well .....I personally wouldn't hold my breath.