Originally posted by long pig
I hate batgirl. Why not just call her meta?Instead, they just say he's peak human. Bullshit.
Good point .....Batgirl is definitely NOT peak human. No human, no matter how well trained they are, can do some of the things she does.
Well ....maybe those Shao Lin monks in 1970s-era kungfu flicks can do such stuff, but that's just about it.
Batgirl, in my opinion, is definitely at Meta level.
p.s: For that matter so should Batman. The guy is too darn perfect ....his mind, his body .....it is so perfect one has to wonder.
And then there are some of the things he does .....for example in the whole Obsidian Age series, the JLA got hit by an ancient spell by some shaman dude, and it was a magical sleep that no one should have been able to rise up from.
Well ....guess who decided to rouse himself from slumber .....even the shaman was perplexed. Especially when you consider stronger characters (in particular Wonderwoman, who has a tolerance for such matters, Martian Manhunter, who has an alien physiology and mental adeptness, the Flash, who can metabolize any changes the magic might have caused in his system to make him sleep) were out cold. Goodness, WonderWoman would have been killed had Batman not 'amazingly' awakened.
Oh, and then there is the whole 'master strategist' part.
Is it strategy, or is it precognition? Yeah yeah, I know it is strategy, but a very good argument could be made for precog.
Or if not precog maybe an ability that is along the lines of Major Disaster (who can make disasters happen at will), but in Bruce's case making his subconscious will occur.
Anyways, technically Batgirl and Batman are 'human' .....however if that is human then ....well .....hmmmm!
The only other possibility would be something from Marvel .....there was a story arc that dealt with Vargas who basically took down several membes of the X-men as if they were nothing (he even killed Psyloche and did so with amazingly little effort, and would have killed Beast had Psyloche not stepped in and sacrificed herself).
In that arc Vargas was not a mutant.
And he was not 'human.'
He was the next evolution of humanity .....basically the next step in the evolutionary sequence, whereby Homo Sapiens Sapiens would evolve into the next stage of being.
And mutation was not the next stage .....Vargas described mutants as a rough draft, an evolutionary offshoot that was no longer necessary now that the true heirs of humanity (beginning with him) had evolved.
If Batman/Batgirl were in Marvel instead of DC they would fit perfectly in that niche.
Not mutant.
But far far more than 'peak' human.
Super human (as opposed to superhuman) comes to mind.