mister x is a normal human well actauly he about peakhuman.
gorgon in one issue had only of his couple of powers mentioned by I think fury or it could of been wolverine. they said he has superhuman strength,speed and he could also turn people into stone by looking at them. they also said that he ahd far more powers then that but those were the only ones they had deffenits on
Originally posted by wolverine8888
ur piont? they have yet in a marvel hand book to explain how fast wolevriens reflexes and agility realy are. from comic feats he ahs done in the past im not surprized he was able to hit gorgon at all
But does Wolverine's body move even near the speed of thought? Otherwise, it would be kind of hard for him to touch something that does...
And where it was stated that Gorgon moves with speed of thought, anyway?
This fight doesn't have to be to the death. Like I said, 5 knockdowns counts as defeat.
Remember that Mr. X did not even get touched once when he fought Wolverine the first time. The only reason Wolverine was able to touch him afterwards is because he entered Berserker rages and Mr. X was unable to predict his next move.
Wolverine never entered a Berserker rage against Gorgon, or at least it never said that he did, but he was able to hit him anyway.
Originally posted by scotsmn
This fight doesn't have to be to the death. Like I said, 5 knockdowns counts as defeat.Remember that Mr. X did not even get touched once when he fought Wolverine the first time. The only reason Wolverine was able to touch him afterwards is because he entered Berserker rages and Mr. X was unable to predict his next move.
Wolverine never entered a Berserker rage against Gorgon, or at least it never said that he did, but he was able to hit him anyway.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
wolverine new gorgon was telepathic. also wolevrine does not need to go beserker to stop telepths. mister x issues had some relay big probles like mister x catchign wolverines claw which would gut his hand straight off. also also wolverine had no idea he was fighting a telepth imagin if wolverine he mister x was telepathic and fought him now he get destroyed.
Even if he knew he was telepathic it wouldn't matter since he could read every move before it happened. The only reason Wolverine could take him was because he was able to block him out of his mind with a Berserker rage. Gorgon would not be able to do this so I think Mr. X would be able to knock him down at least 5 times.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
shown in wolverine shield part 5 and 6. also not realy like namor can he could easiliy move slow plus it not runnign speed it reflex. reflexes are far diffrent and seeing how he dodged livng lightning and lazer and such I am not surprized at all that he hit gorgon
"also not realy like namor can he could easiliy move slow plus it not runnign speed it reflex"
I'm not sure what you mean by the sentence above...but to tag someone who moves with the speed of sound, wouldn't it be just logical that his arms would need to move somewhere close to that? I mean the whole reason humans can't catch bullets out of air is because they can't move fast enough. Now I've seen Wolverine take out darts out of the air, but were they moving even near the speed of sound, which is 760 miles per hour?
Also, I was not able to find anything about Gorgon moving with speed of sound in those issues. And if he was able to move with it, how come he was tagged by Wolverine who was moving with hundred miles per hour with jetpack? Seven times slower then speed of sound?
Originally posted by wolverine8888
dude I dont think ur udnerstanding what were saying. gorgon can read minds as well lol. also wolverien does not need to go beserker to stop mister x from reading his mind. he could just fight on instinct as he did for the shield agent traiend to kill him and as he did with pylocke
Maybe you're party right BUT... Gorgon cannot read minds as well as Mr. X can. You can tell because Wolverine is at least able to hit Gorgon sometimes without Berserk but he is NOT able to hit Mr. X without Berserk.
You don't have to defend Wolverine so strongly w8888 🙂 He does have a way to beat Mr. X afterall. This fight is between Mr. X and Gorgon.
Don't forgot that Mr. X has trained his entire life in every form of martial art and has made it his business to go after the toughest, baddest most skilled opponents and kill them. Unlike Wolverine, he USES his martial arts EVERY time he fights.
diffrence if he did not know wolverine was comming at hi if u rmeber wolverine one time teleport and another time took him by surpirze when he was gunna kill fury. also if u indeed have read the comic u would of seen when he speekign to electra she asks him why the guys arnt attacking him and he says that because were talking at the speed of thought they don't even know were hear.
well how fast do rockets move? I of comics of wolevrine cutting rockets right out of the air. I also have a comic were wolverine easiliy dodges the living lighting and we all know he far faster then the speed of sound.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Maybe you're party right BUT... Gorgon cannot read minds as well as Mr. X can. You can tell because Wolverine is at least able to hit Gorgon sometimes without Berserk but he is NOT able to hit Mr. X without Berserk.You don't have to defend Wolverine so strongly w8888 🙂 He does have a way to beat Mr. X afterall. This fight is between Mr. X and Gorgon.
Don't forgot that Mr. X has trained his entire life in every form of martial art and has made it his business to go after the toughest, baddest most skilled opponents and kill them. Unlike Wolverine, he USES his martial arts EVERY time he fights.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Maybe you're party right BUT... Gorgon cannot read minds as well as Mr. X can. You can tell because Wolverine is at least able to hit Gorgon sometimes without Berserk but he is NOT able to hit Mr. X without Berserk.
Untrue. Wolverine was able to hit Gorgon BECAUSE Wolverine and Elektra were wearing SHIELD telepathic blockers. As soon as Elektra lost hers, that was it for her.
So in both cases, Wolverine was able to hit X and Gorgon by circumventing their telepathy. In the former, he did it by going bezerk, in the latter, he did it with tech.
But while X was getting severely hurt, Gorgon has superhuman durability and not the least bit slowed down. to me, even if all things else were equal, that's what puts Gorgon over the top, along with, you know, the whole turn to stone thing...
Originally posted by wolverine8888
diffrence if he did not know wolverine was comming at hi if u rmeber wolverine one time teleport and another time took him by surpirze when he was gunna kill fury. also if u indeed have read the comic u would of seen when he speekign to electra she asks him why the guys arnt attacking him and he says that because were talking at the speed of thought they don't even know were hear.
Can Elektra now move with the speed of thought? 😕
Originally posted by wolverine8888
well how fast do rockets move? I of comics of wolevrine cutting rockets right out of the air. I also have a comic were wolverine easiliy dodges the living lighting and we all know he far faster then the speed of sound.
He was knocked down by a rock, so he was not in his fastest form (which can't be harmed by physical means)
Originally posted by demigawd
Untrue. Wolverine was able to hit Gorgon BECAUSE Wolverine and Elektra were wearing SHIELD telepathic blockers. As soon as Elektra lost hers, that was it for her.So in both cases, Wolverine was able to hit X and Gorgon by circumventing their telepathy. In the former, he did it by going bezerk, in the latter, he did it with tech.
But while X was getting severely hurt, Gorgon has superhuman durability and not the least bit slowed down. to me, even if all things else were equal, that's what puts Gorgon over the top, along with, you know, the whole turn to stone thing...
I don't believe Wolverine ONLY hit Gorgon when it was a surprise attack. He had some hits that were consecutive. I'll re-read the comic when I get home.
And about the Stone thing, Mr. X wears shades 😎
Originally posted by scotsmn
I don't believe Wolverine ONLY hit Gorgon when it was a surprise attack. He had some hits that were consecutive. I'll re-read the comic when I get home.
They'd never really come into conflict prior to that all out attack, when he had his telepathic blockers.
And about the Stone thing, Mr. X wears shades 😎
hahaha...I hope you're kidding with that comment. 🙂
Originally posted by demigawd
They'd never really come into conflict prior to that all out attack, when he had his telepathic blockers.hahaha...I hope you're kidding with that comment. 🙂
No I'm not kidding. Only reason Gorgon doesn't turn people into Stone is because they can't see his eyes since he's wearing shades. When he takes them off and you look into his eyes you turn to Stone. Mr. X wears shades when he fights. 😎
Originally posted by scotsmn
No I'm not kidding. Only reason Gorgon doesn't turn people into Stone is because they can't see his eyes since he's wearing shades. When he takes them off and you look into his eyes you turn to Stone. Mr. X wears shades when he fights. 😎
There's a HUGE difference. You wearing dark shades makes YOUR pupils invisible to EVERYBODY ELSE. You wearing dark shades doesn't make EVERYBODY ELSE'S pupils invisible to YOU!