Originally posted by scurran
i dont mean that DD is a horcrux i mean that he has one
in the first place why would dumbledore want a horcrux for himself?
>> to what... defeat Voldemort?
but D even said to Harry
"I don't care how many nameless and faceless people die as long as YOU live"
^^ well those aren't the exact words but the thought is there 😛
my point is...
dumbledore's fate was sealed the moment the propechy was made...
only Harry can defeat the dark lord
and dumbledore KNEW and ACKNOWLEDGED this fact...
meaning he resigned himself to protect harry until the final battle came...
Originally posted by scurran
i know youve head this before but im absolutely sure tha DD has a horcrux, there are little hints that JK gives us:
1. he is very old, he is 150 so he could have one(every one has a past)
2. He opposes them alot, so that could mean he regrets it
3. in the first book he tells prof mc gonagall that he trusts hagrid with his life, could this mean that hagrid has it hidden?
4. fawkes is always there and could be IT!(just a few thoughts)
Sorry but that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Originally posted by Selina*Starfire
Sorry but that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Even i agree that now. But it only seems stupid after people have read DH. The last post before Dh was made on the 29th of Dec 2006. Back when all people where doing was specualting.
I forgot i even posted that. Anyway we all know what happened, so i dont know why the thread was bumpped.
Originally posted by undomielToday I was tidying out my school trunk just in time to re-pack it and I found a diary I wrote in 2003, it said:
dumbledore would never commit murder.
"I saw a film about pirates today, my DAD took me because Lorna has gone back to her house for three weeks. I liked the film, except according to the book that used to belong to my mum, EVERY character is supposed to have a flaw, but I couldn't see one in the girl called Elizabeth. That makes her perfect. I asked my dad, but he didn't answer. I think that she must have been perfect like Dumbeldore, he's perfect because he's never done anything wrong and he will always be the best person on the good side. I think he will get rid of Voldemort, but he won't kill him because Dumbeldore is too kind to kill anyone."
Ironic isn't it how we all believed Dumbeldore was so pure and innocent all along. However if we'd had any faith in JK Rowling we would have realised that she would have created a flaw for him even if it was small.
It wasn't that big a flaw. Dumbledore was simply an idealistic teen who needed to be shown the error of his ideas; Ariana's death seemed to do that for him.
The differences between the adolescent Dumbledore and Riddle were that, while Dumbledore was able to feel compassion, love and regret, Riddle could not, because he wallowed in self-pity and his delusions. Grindelwald, while obviously a flawed and malicious person, was able to feel some of those emotions, as is seen from his supposed repentance - although, of cource, that doesn't excuse his heinous actions.
I don't believe Dumbledore would have never been able to put any of his ideas into practice, because, after thinking it through, he would have realized that they could not be carried out without there being too much far too much gratuity.
Originally posted by Selina*Starfire
Sorry but that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Sorry but I don't think so. Slowly this whole discussion turned in to Dumbledore, present, past and future. Although we know the answers that JK Rowling gave us in DH, I still think that the possibility of DD having hroncrux is there. this speculation is based on his personality described in the DH. I mean, great man (or woman) make greater mistakes.
So the fact that DD is the symbol of good in the books, it doesn't mean that he was not mingling with the Dark Arts in his past. Even if he was, and managed to defeat his greatest and most dangerous enemy- him self- and come to the good side, make him even a bigger man, a better leader. Making mistakes him self, he knowns not to trust Snape with the DADA teaching \, until the last moment.
So out hero, DD could have mingled with horncruxes him self, perhaps one, that he him self has destroyed it after (once that the idea for revolution developed together with Grindelwald calmed down). Thats why he knows so much, thats what puts him in a higher liege then Voldermort.