Stanley "Tookie" Williams

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
He says that only fools and Communists speak out against guns. And AC quoted him, not YOU. That's wehat I meant.

And you mentioned noone was accusing anyone of being a Communist, and I was recognizing that YOU weren't but AC spelled it out plain and simple that pro-gunners accuse anti-gunners of being Communist. And since HE said it thru his quoting of Bill Hicks, I wanted to let you know I knew it.

Funny that.

Because the whole point of the quote was that Bill Hicks was using it as an example of why all guns should be illegal for everyone. Saying how stupid it was of pro-gun owners to call people communists or fools for speaking against them.

Shows what happens when you dive in without thinking, Dagon.

-AC

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
He says that only fools and Communists speak out against guns. And AC quoted him, not YOU. That's wehat I meant.

And you mentioned noone was accusing anyone of being a Communist, and I was recognizing that YOU weren't but AC spelled it out plain and simple that pro-gunners accuse anti-gunners of being Communist. And since HE said it thru his quoting of Bill Hicks, I wanted to let you know I knew it.

Dude!

Bill Hicks was making fun of NRA supporters...and how everyone who DOESN'T think like them, are communists...

You can't tell that to Dagon, he rushes in without thinking or asking.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Funny that.

Because the whole point of the quote was that Bill Hicks was using it as an example of why all guns should be illegal for everyone. Saying how stupid it was of pro-gun owners to call people communists or fools for speaking against them.

Shows what happens when you dive in without thinking, Dagon.

-AC

Beat me to it.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
You might be suprised to discover that I think Michael Moore is a turd. A big steamy turd.

You have company. But watch now, because that means people like you and me who hate people who tell "The Awful Truth" are Communists who are undermining the country by hiding the real truth. 😉

Moore's problem with the NRA was their Rpublican stance, not the organisation itself. The NRA has MNAY active and retired military and law enforcement officers in their roles, and Moore is or was a member.
So much for that, huh?

His bodyguard was arrested at a NY airport earlier this year for not having handgun license for NY. He was released for doing the same thing in California as well..Moore bitched that he was being treated unfairly because he was arrested.,citing it as a mistake. Yeah the second mistake of it's kind.

Well Mr. Moore, you talk about how bad guns are, and yet complain when your bodyguard was arrested for breaking A GUN LAW?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Dude!

Bill Hicks was making fun of NRA supporters...and how everyone who DOESN'T think like them, are communists...

No shit!

Because the whole point of the quote was that Bill Hicks was using it as an example of why all guns should be illegal for everyone. Saying how stupid it was of pro-gun owners to call people communists or fools for speaking against them.

Shows what happens when you dive in without thinking, Dagon.

I was addressing the reverse take-that people who stop or stand in the way of laws to prevent guns are seen as Socialists by those who hate guns and want them gone. In case you haven't done your homework, Socialists and Communists are about an inch away from each other.

As far as not thinking before diving in, AC? You made that mistake earlier with me when you decided to insult me and use your tactics and spend the whole time thinking I wasn't going to respond, so touche'.

Rest in peace Albert Owens. Murdered at age 26 for $120. He was a convienenience market operator who was taken into a rear room and shot twice in the back.

Rest in peace Yen-I-Yang(76), his wife Tsai-Shai Yang (63), and their 43 year old daughter Yee-Chen Lin....all slaugtered by way of shotgun for petty cash. The elderly couple owned and operated a motel-their daughter was visiting. Ballistics experts link shells at the scene to Tookie's gun.

Hopefully the victims families have found some kind of closure.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
No shit!

Because the whole point of the quote was that Bill Hicks was using it as an example of why all guns should be illegal for everyone. Saying how stupid it was of pro-gun owners to call people communists or fools for speaking against them.

Shows what happens when you dive in without thinking, Dagon.

I was addressing the reverse take-that people who stop or stand in the way of laws to prevent guns are seen as Socialists by those who hate guns and want them gone. In case you haven't done your homework, Socialists and Communists are about an inch away from each other.

Well, more than an inch. Otherwise, they wouldn't hate each other so much...in the classic sense. Modern Socialists aren't an inch away from modern Communists, at all. But, they agree on some basic levels.

And it was a comical statement. No, not all gun-owners are radical, fanatics.(..redundant) But, the ones that make public statments certainly come across that way.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
I was addressing the reverse take-that people who stop or stand in the way of laws to prevent guns are seen as Socialists by those who hate guns and want them gone. In case you haven't done your homework, Socialists and Communists are about an inch away from each other.

As far as not thinking before diving in, AC? You made that mistake earlier with me when you decided to insult me and use your tactics and spend the whole time thinking I wasn't going to respond, so touche'.

Yeah but all that aside.

Most of what you have just been saying has been based upon your misinterpretation of a quote only to go on and make a point that I originally made and agreed with.

-AC

Just wanted to put it out there that it is a total drag for all of the people with December 13th birthdays; instead of it being remembered as their birthdays, it's going to be remembered as Tookie's death day. Whoopie. 😐

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Rest in peace Albert Owens. Murdered at age 26 for $120. He was a convienenience market operator who was taken into a rear room and shot twice in the back.

Rest in peace Yen-I-Yang(76), his wife Tsai-Shai Yang (63), and their 43 year old daughter Yee-Chen Lin....all slaughtetred by way of shotgun for petty cash. The elderly couple owned and operated a motel-their daughter was visiting. Ballistics experts link shells at the scene to Tookie's gun.

Hopefully the victims families have found some kind of closure.

Yeah back to Tookie. Now that I misunderstood one quote of AC's he can sit and masturbate over it all night. As if HE hasn't jumped w\o making assumptions 🙄

There again I don't put too much faith in a man who wants to reform
a cold blooded killer and failling in that, let him waste the tax payers' dollars for the rest of his life aside fromthe 30 years of money Cali wasted on appeals...

So anyway...Tookie. Dead or alive, and WHY?

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Yeah back to Tookie. Now that I misunderstood one quote of AC's he can sit and masturbate over it all night. As if HE hasn't jumped w\o making assumptions 🙄

Watch it, Dagon. That's uncalled for.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah but all that aside.

Most of what you have just been saying has been based upon your misinterpretation of a quote only to go on and make a point that I originally made and agreed with.

-AC

Fair enough. You know that pro-gunners and those who support the NRA are seen as Socialist Conformists and ultra right wing conservatives who serve Bush because it's a Republican outfit.

I never said that people who oppose guns are Commies, but when you have people who believe that guns are for the govt and politicians, and not the people, that is a baseline form of Socialism, with Communism around the corner if the vote goes the other way.

If politicians can keep and bear arms for hunting,shooting, and self defense, so can the people. Other than their "important" jobs in our government making laws they exempt themselves from, they too, are just as much "We The People" as the rest of us. And they are no better than anyone else.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Watch it, Dagon. That's uncalled for.

So was a lot that he said to me earlier, and with all due respect this dosen't concern you, thank you. It's betwen he and I. I don't know you, and I don't police your speech. You're entitled to your opinion about what is and what isn't called for, but it's not your business. Thank you for your input though.

What are you getting at? Because you're trying to argue with someone who made that point first, much less agrees with it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah but all that aside.

Most of what you have just been saying has been based upon your misinterpretation of a quote only to go on and make a point that I originally made and agreed with.

-AC

Anyone can make a mistake, man. Just don't beat me with it. It's water over the falls as far as I'm concerned.

Why did you post that again? No need for that. I said it once, you quoted it twice now. As for over the falls, why did you then raise your past issues with me to Rex? Bit hypocritical.

Oh and it is his business, he's a mod.

We agree on the gun crime topic, let's move on.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why did you post that again? No need for that. I said it once, you quoted it twice now. As for over the falls, why did you then raise your past issues with me to Rex? Bit hypocritical.

Oh and it is his business, he's a mod.

We agree on the gun crime topic, let's move on.

-AC

And I was supposed to know he was a mod when he has no title under or over his avatar saying he's a mod? My reply came to him as a reply before I said it was over the falls. No hypocrisy, just a matter of timing and which reply was in response to what post.

OK then..I'll be fair this time and admit that I shouldn't have said what I said about the masturbation. I've been unnecessarily unfair in some spots but you haven't been an angel either. No big deal.

And no I DON'T agree with you on all your gun crime issues, as you said earlier, " I don't need you speaking for me."

That said, indeed let's move on. I have a feeling I'll be thrown out of here anyway for speaking back to the undercover cop here, so all I'll say is it was fun while it lasted.

who's a mod?

It certainly lasted, but whether it was fun or not depends on your definition of the adjective...

I've never applied the word 'fun' to the experience of 'talking' to a moron who continually fails to grasp a single concept he is presented with. I guess it's another case of 'horses for courses', or something...

Anyway, here's a nice little thing I've made:

Killing = bad.
Killing a killer = bad.
Killing a redemptory killer = bad.

Basically, I'm saying killing is bad. You get me?