Christianity: Fear based and brainwashed?

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Originally posted by WindDancer
This is just the case of extremists. I don't think this is restricted to just Christianity.....I'm sure you heard of Muslim Extremist ....you know? those guys that brainwash kids into become terrorists and strap bombs into their bodies....
True, and good thing Christians will never do that, strap bombs on I mean.

How about a Buddha bomber?
blowup

Re: Christianity: Fear based and brainwashed?

Originally posted by debbiejo
How about a Buddha bomber?
blowup

There has never been an act of violence committed in the name of Buddhism.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There has never been an act of violence committed in the name of Buddhism.

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It seems the only ones that are violent are the believers in a "One god" religion.....I wish they could deprogram........It's that hell thing, the hell thing....they're afraid of the devil........OH god... : 😕

Originally posted by debbiejo
It seems the only ones that are violent are the believers in a "One god" religion.....I wish they could deprogram........It's that hell thing, the hell thing....they're afraid of the devil........OH god... : 😕

The ones that are violent are the ones who believe they are right and everyone else is wrong.

okay I completely agree but for different reasons. I'm a satanic worshipper, no not like in the 80s where babies were sacreficed but i believe satan is a symbol of power and control and god is a symbol created to "control" the actions and the ways the world was built.
It's almost scientifically and logically impossible for there to be a god...the bible was written 500 years after jesus was supost to have been born, the story of god and jesus could have been altered to much by then that the image given today is totally fake.
On the topic of parents not letting their own kids watch movies and such, it's common even among non christians...my aunt for example has two kids, 6 and 10 either has ever seen a disney movie because she believes they are too violent and she is a non chirstian, the whole not letting your children life is more a personal thing then a religious one.

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Originally posted by debbiejo
It seems the only ones that are violent are the believers in a "One god" religion.....I wish they could deprogram........It's that hell thing, the hell thing....they're afraid of the devil........OH god... : 😕

I would attribute a great deal of violence to non-monotheistic peoples... you know, like every war that ever happened in East Asia or in pre-Islamic times in the Middle East... most of the wars the Roman Empire waged, any violence occurring in Europe before the Roman Empire became "holy". There was violence in Africa, India, and the Americas before any of those people converted to monotheism too.
The Mongols? Before they conquered the Muslims they were neither monotheistic nor peaceful.
If you're referring to intolerance of other religions, I would provide the example of Japanese repression of Christianity. There were crucifixions and the like, though to be fair the body count was not very high. For that matter, however, aside from the occasional enthusiastic pogroms Christians and other religious states managed to get by without killing off vast numbers of heathens. Interestingly, not only is Shintoism (the dominant Japanese religion of the time) not monotheistic, it also has no concept of Hell as I understand it.

To attribute violence of almost any sort solely to religious causes is near impossible, and certainly oversimplifies the matter as much as, if not more than, trying to fit it into the Marxist dialectic, for example. Cookie-cutter history doesn't work so well. It has been said that even Osama bin Laden's writings are more like politics laced with religious references than anything else, and Ayatollah Khomeini's rise to power was likewise.

Implying there's anything intrinsically violent about Christianity, I would note, is ridiculous. There are a number of sects that adhere to strict pacifism.

Well that is also true. After some thinking I remembered yes, it was also the believers in polytheism or many gods also, I believe that the less violent group would be the believers in reincarnation. For the purpose of Karma in their next life, When I was talking in the post above I was basing it on more Muslims and Christians and more around the first Century AD and forward..

Re: Christianity: Fear based and brainwashed?

Originally posted by Darth Zannah
I have friends who have been christian since birth. The way I see it they have been brainwashed by their parents telling them what is good and what is a sin.

Sorry to inform you but you cannot be a Christian from birth or because your parents told you about Jesus or because you grew up in a Christian home. The Bible says that you have to make a conscious desicion to accept (and believe with your heart) Jesus as your Saviour and Son of God and repent for your sins. Then only can you be saved or become a Christian as we are referred to.

Not if Darth Zannah is Catholic. That is their belief, I believe, Doctrinal view.

What exactly am I being saved from if I become a Christian?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have never heard of home schooling?

Oh yes. Home schooled kids.

the social problems these kids face is mind boggling.

Originally posted by GhostDance
What exactly am I being saved from if I become a Christian?
HELL

Eternal damnation if you like....But then you have to be in the right denomination also.........Protestants don't believe Catholics will be saved and vs.

It's a small minded god that would condemn anybody for such human frailties.

religion is a result of geographical placement and the events that have taken place in that area.

nothing more.

go look at a map.

If one goes by what the bible says about god, there is no reason to have hell be an actual place. I used to be a christian, but hold some of their ideas and take ideas from other world religions. My idea of God is that he is not a person or deity, but an idea.

Any ways, hell cannot exist by bible standards beceause God forgives everyone of their sins. Even if you don't ask him, there are stories where Jesus has forgiven people without even being asked. I am not a bible scholar and it has been a while since I read it, but I know there are stories like that. So if God forgives everyone, it is impossible for anyone to meet the criteria set down by the bible for some to go to hell.

A big fear based religious movement has been the introduction of Hell houses around Halloween time. These horror houses show the devil and make people weep and "learn" about hell and how to become saved by God. Many people seem to learn lessons after these disturbing experiences.

If you are more interested, there is a good summary on religioustolerance .com

So why are Christians scaring people into submission? If their ideas are so powerful and strong, why are they afraid of anyone who has a different idea? Why is the Da Vinci Code persecuted and abolished by christians? If there's a lightning rod on a church, is that a lack of faith?

A big thing I have against organised religon that has a mortal in power that dictates what is right and wrong is that it kills individuality and free thinking. If the pope told the catholics to jump off a cliff, would he tell the ones who didn't they were going to hell? Maybe. Once people start listening to people and not working to understand things for themselves, they are giving up their ability to truely become who they are.

One thing I have also noticed is that christians snap. If they become frustrated and are alone in a discussion, they will snap. It is hard for them to remember that they are supposed to be christ-like. I have been beat up because I told someone my idea of Existence-ism and the Art of Being

Originally posted by GhostDance
What exactly am I being saved from if I become a Christian?

Your money!

Okay, here is the religious question of the century.

Are you ready?

What do you think of when you think of corn?

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
Okay, here is the religious question of the century.

Are you ready?

What do you think of when you think of corn?

I wish I understood what you are talking about, please help me.

Well there is a band group called corn..They're scary.

And to the one posted earlier...Not all homeschoolers have problems. Look at Einstein and Edison.

Corn ? Well... I think of popcorn... is it a bad thing ? 😕

"Children of the Corn"....Scary movie.Jumpy