Thats because earth atmospheric pressure is within human tolerance limits. Volcanic magma flows exert many millions of times that pressure, combined with the extreme temperature. thats considerably more destructive than a heat charged bullwhip...
@ DVamp: Care to explain your oppinion? Against almost any other Zoid, I would agree with you, but this is one of the few that can tackle just about any Mobile suit.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Can you send me a link to where you got your stats?
Magmatic pressure usually equal to 3000 atmospheres Wikipedia
Now, I'm fairly sure that the heat rod does not exert 3000 + tonns of force per hit with the Rod.
Anyways, it took the power of a Black hole to crack the armour anyways, and even then it did not complely destroy the Stinger
I'd like to see that fact proven, since the Stinger survived not one, but two things that would kill ANY mobile suit you could name.
#1: Crashing from upper orbit, that means not unly reentry, but impact. And survived completely undamaged.
#2: Surviving in Lava freely withiout any ill effects.
Oh and allow me to remind you that although the Beam Swored b0rked Barge, I would say that the Epyon would need to keep stabbing at the Death Stinger till it can get at the core, and doing so will leave Epyon very vulnerable to most of the Stingers firepower.
Also, if the DS has Ambient, then it has the bonus ability to regenerate lost arour and parts.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I'd like to see that fact proven, since the Stinger survived not one, but two things that would kill ANY mobile suit you could name.#1: Crashing from upper orbit, that means not unly reentry, but impact. And survived completely undamaged.
#2: Surviving in Lava freely withiout any ill effects.
Oh and allow me to remind you that although the Beam Swored b0rked Barge, I would say that the Epyon would need to keep stabbing at the Death Stinger till it can get at the core, and doing so will leave Epyon very vulnerable to most of the Stingers firepower.
Also, if the DS has Ambient, then it has the bonus ability to regenerate lost arour and parts.
WING gundam survived a blast from Space station barge, head on. A blast that easily took out entire floating colonies. That's how strong Gundanium is.
Hell, all the Mobile suits can enter earth's atmosphere from Upper orbit without taking much damage at all, and Zero was nearly undamaged from getting slammed into a mountainside from Epyon, which is much more force than the impact from falling. Why? Terminal velocity.
Nevermind that Lava only has surface area pressure, while the Beam saber is focused pressure, that's like laying a 100lb slab of concrete on someone, or laying a 100lb pole on someone, the pole is going to be a lot more pressure. It's the PSI.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
WING gundam survived a blast from Space station barge, head on. A blast that easily took out entire floating colonies. That's how strong Gundanium is.Hell, all the Mobile suits can enter earth's atmosphere from Upper orbit without taking much damage at all, and Zero was nearly undamaged from getting slammed into a mountainside from Epyon, which is much more force than the impact from falling. Why? Terminal velocity.
Nevermind that Lava only has surface area pressure, while the Beam saber is focused pressure, that's like laying a 100lb slab of concrete on someone, or laying a 100lb pole on someone, the pole is going to be a lot more pressure. It's the PSI.
Firstly, here's a little peice of trivia for you, it took a black hole generating chell to crack the Stingers armour, nothing less worked on it.
Reentry and crashing from the same fall? or is it controlled reentry and then controlled landing? and being slammed into a mountain from far less distance is not quite the same as dropping 70.000 meters through reentry point (you know, the part that makes you look like a damed comet?), exploding on impact and surviving.
Surface pressure? ok, remaining fully submerged in magma miles from the surface for a few days does not constitute endurance, even though any gundam you could name would have melted within minutes... does not constitute an imperviousness to heat, let alone a heat based weapon (Namely the heat rod) and a resistance to an energy based weapon (The beam sword)?
Admittedly if the Epyon could concentrate enough sword strikes at the Stingers main body without Ambient being there, then maybe the Beam sword could open up the Stinger well enough to get a shot at the Core.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Now, I'm fairly sure that the heat rod does not exert 3000 + tonns of force per hit with the Rod.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Firstly, here's a little peice of trivia for you, it took a black hole generating chell to crack the Stingers armour, nothing less worked on it.Reentry and crashing from the same fall? or is it controlled reentry and then controlled landing? and being slammed into a mountain from far less distance is not quite the same as dropping 70.000 meters through reentry point (you know, the part that makes you look like a damed comet?), exploding on impact and surviving.
Surface pressure? ok, remaining fully submerged in magma miles from the surface for a few days does not constitute endurance, even though any gundam you could name would have melted within minutes... does not constitute an imperviousness to heat, let alone a heat based weapon (Namely the heat rod) and a resistance to an energy based weapon (The beam sword)?
Admittedly if the Epyon could concentrate enough sword strikes at the Stingers main body without Ambient being there, then maybe the Beam sword could open up the Stinger well enough to get a shot at the Core.
It took the pressure of a black hole huh? If you're so sure of this suits ability to win then why make the thread?
Nothing is going to change your mind so no need to continue the debate.
My point was to prove a few people wrong, not all zoids are weak compared to Gundams. I'll admit that most Zoids stand no chance against a Gundam, but I have proven that now ALL Zoids are weak in comparison.
Death Stinger 8/10
Epyon 2/10 If it doesn't get blasted while trying to open up the Stinger to get a shot at the core.
Even though you do put up a good point Dark-Storm Zero, Epyon has the speed and weapons to defeat a Death Stringer, I agree Death is strong and can defeat him if and this is a Major If, Death can get a hold of Epyon, like someone said before. "Epyon Dodge Wing Zero' Energy Rifle" and I watch Zoids and Gundam all the time so do not think i play Favorites. Epyon has the speed and strength if he can hit the Death Stringer in a Critical spot. Also do not forget the Whip is also a Shield, so it can most likely take anything the Death Stringer throws at him. If you do wish to argue then lets begin alucardwink1
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
...I would agree with you, but this is one of the few that can tackle just about any Mobile suit.
Except the mighty Devil Gundam, which should have never lost. 🙁
This Gundam would own any Zoid any day make it its ***** and then improve it with its DG cells to do its bidding.
Originally posted by bean_machine
Except the mighty Devil Gundam, which should have never lost. 🙁This Gundam would own any Zoid any day make it its ***** and then improve it with its DG cells to do its bidding.
Doubt it , as i earlier stated the Charged particle cannon cna be fired in an arc , the Death stingers armour is so strong it took the equivalent pressure of a black hole to crack it's armour.