I agree with the two latter posts.
Palpatine (according to what we know) probably hadent trained much in the last 13 years or more, mabey he was really, really good before or if he had trained those 13 years, and was rusty in ROTS. Mabey DE Sidious is the power of a well trained Sidious (except the force storm power).
To the Assaj vs Durge, I'd say Assaj. Obi defeated Durge though he survived by rebuilding himself (or whatever he did). Havent Assaj fought beside Durge and knows of this power?
well it is true, i believe that palpy is underestimated. he is an talented actor in the star wars universe, not only was he brilliant he was exceptionaly in manipulation and lying, he may have thrown the fight with mace, no matter how it looked, palpy could have been simply acting as if he was losing, just to turn anakin. if he did not think ani would come he would have faught mace harder, and more seriously. We are simply underestimating him, we just assume that the ancient sith could pwn any jedi/sith from any other era, these assumations have made us almost like fanboys of these ancient sith. You cant assume anything, maybe yoda and sids can do those impressive things. they just didnt need to or want to or george lucas didnt feel that it was necessary to show this, or he didnt think of it. it could be any reason. my point is we can't really compare jedi/sith of different eras too accurately because the scales of power for each era could be different. I am just trying to tell you my oppinion. Thats all, thank you.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Please. Kyp Durron, the great Jedi who couldn't kill a Vong, taking out Anakin? Gentract, you've had some craptastical ideas in the past, but this is borderline stupid. Luke? How would someone's offspring inherit more power than their most powerful parent has? (Leave Amidala, Jade, Han, and Ka out of this.)
Kyp being beaten by that Slayer(elite Yuuzhan Vong completely incased in huge amounts of armor) was a fluke. It's an outlier. It can't be used to accurately tell what his power is. Why? Because Kyp controlled a black hole too. Kyp did Luke's most powerful feat. How can he not be good?
Kyp also defeated the Leviathan.
Incase you're wondering what a Leviathan is, they were ancient Sith superweapons used during the Hundred Year Darkness. People who were able to stand up against Ajunta Pall fled from them, yet Kyp defeated one. How can he not be powerful?
Actually, I take that back, he killed two. First the child, then the mother. He killed a pissed-off-mom that is a superweapon even when not angry.
Kyp is also reffered to as Luke's greatest student. That means better than Katarn, Jacen, Corran, ect.
Want to see one? Here you go:
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Impressive? I think so.
Luke has the Kaiburr Crystal, making him more powerful than he would be off just regular potential.
Also note that if what you are saying, Faunus, is true, then no matter what, no child could ever develop more potential than their parent. That is obviously not true, as people outdo their parents all of the time.
"Leave Amidala, Jade, Han, and Ka out of this."
What does that have to do with anything.
Originally posted by Darth Faunus
And we really have nothing to go on regarding Anakin's potential power, save for GL's one unshakeable claim that he would be the most powerful being ever. Marka Ragnos doesn't exist out of time, you know.
Can I see a source that Anakin would be the most powerful personever?
Originally posted by kamikz
Well since full potential Anakin is nothing but a myth we will never know, but GL has said he was more powerful than any other so I would say he defeats Markar.I know you just posted your opinion and so did I, sorry if it came out the wrong way.
Link to quote?
He's said that Anakin had the potential to be far greater than Sidious. Of course, he's also so that EU is not the same universe as the movies, but a very similar one.
Making an extrapolation like that is just being retarded.
Great to see that the topic has been derailed.
Originally posted by Illustrious
Link to quote?He's said that Anakin had the potential to be far greater than Sidious. Of course, he's also so that EU is not the same universe as the movies, but a very similar one.
Making an extrapolation like that is just being retarded.
Great to see that the topic has been derailed.
Yeah, I second that. If you people think two times Sidious pwns Ragnos you need to stop smoking crack.
And if I see another soul argue percentiles I am gonna hurl the **** up.
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