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Originally posted by Juntai
Not really, just a few months ago for example, Flash was doing jobs for two different Justice League's at the same time, in different costumes, and was acting fully fledged in both instances. A portal opened between then and Flash was on both sides of the portal wearing different costumes and the teams both looked at him like "Wtf dude?"

Flash typically just paces around and several hundred or even thousand miles an hour, but when he wants to go light speed, he does it pretty instantly.

Then alternatively, he can just tap the speed force and then time has no meaning.

It's not even light speed though. This is more stuff like 3 million times light speed. Flash definitely doesn't do that very often, I don't know if he ever HAS done that, without drawing speed from something else. (Him+ the speeds of Supes, Jay Garrick, Max Mercury, and Jesse Quick probably was something around that... He ended up beating a teleporter from another dimension to Earth) The fact that Surfer and Runner can do those speeds pretty much instantaneaously doesn't help Wally either.

Surfer searched the ENTIRE planet Earthin the time it took Doctor Strange to finish a sentence. The Runner traveled across galaxies in response to Moondragon yelling once. He was there before she finished. The kids are freaking fast.

i think thats surfers speed is stuipd, its stuipd to have a character as strong as SS w/ that kind of speed, then agian SS, the runner and Flash are from different companies, but flash w/ the speed force is faster than runner or ss

Originally posted by zachrivard
i think thats surfers speed is stuipd, its stuipd to have a character as strong as SS w/ that kind of speed, then agian SS, the runner and Flash are from different companies, but flash w/ the speed force is faster than runner or ss

Originally posted by thesilverspider
the flash has never gone faster the either the surfer or runner.

Originally posted by zachrivard
i think thats surfers speed is stuipd, its stuipd to have a character as strong as SS w/ that kind of speed, then agian SS, the runner and Flash are from different companies, but flash w/ the speed force is faster than runner or ss

The thing is though... It's not about power, it's about who you fight. Lucifer is WAY overpowered if you put him against the JLA, but he's not fighting the JLA. He goes against all of Heaven, then against authority in general.

Surfer is stuck a notch above the highest Earth based characters, and the lower level cosmic ones. That's why he jobs a lot.

And no he's not... Flash always has the speed force. Without it, he is HUMAN. He can probably get to the level of guys like SS and Runner, but it would take A: Time (I think his reflexes actually go up with his speed too, which would NOT help him in a race or combat situation) B: Somewhere a LOT bigger than Earth, since he can't exactly fly. Flash is a higher level Earth based hero, Surfer is a low level cosmic. Runner is a slightly higher level cosmic. Who has totally punked Champion, btw. 😈

Originally posted by zachrivard
with the speed force flash is speed, he controls it and is it, he becomes omnipotent and faster than runner or ss, its just like the thing w/ jean grey and the pheonix force

The hell? Flash can't do anything like that... He can go disgustingly fast, yes, but he can't control "all speed". Like the Phoenix Force? Are you joking? Jean manipulates reality on a universal scale. The best Flash can do is create objects out of pure energy, as far as I've seen. He can steal speed, but he DOES have limits on it.

i think flash with totaly control of the speed force is an aspect of god and cant be beaten 😉

Flash can really run as fast as he wants lol When Flash goes all out, he goes so fast he actually travels through time. Speed = distance/time. Flash can control what the time value is and therefore make the speed value as large as he wants.

However, this has never been used in a comic so its really one of those "hypothetical" Flash powers 😛

Also, I believe when Flash uses the Quick's formula he can gains the abillity to accelerate to light speed pretty much instantaniously. Thats how he battle Zoom II on his level.

Originally posted by 3.14
Flash can really run as fast as he wants lol When Flash goes all out, he goes so fast he actually travels through time. Speed = distance/time. Flash can control what the time value is and therefore make the speed value as large as he wants.

However, this has never been used in a comic so its really one of those "hypothetical" Flash powers 😛

Also, I believe when Flash uses the Quick's formula he can gains the abillity to accelerate to light speed pretty much instantaniously. Thats how he battle Zoom II on his level.

Originally posted by Dizzle
The thing is though... It's not about power, it's about who you fight. Lucifer is WAY overpowered if you put him against the JLA, but he's not fighting the JLA. He goes against all of Heaven, then against authority in general.

Surfer is stuck a notch above the highest Earth based characters, and the lower level cosmic ones. That's why he jobs a lot.

And no he's not... Flash always has the speed force. Without it, he is HUMAN. He can probably get to the level of guys like SS and Runner, but it would take A: Time (I think his reflexes actually go up with his speed too, which would NOT help him in a race or combat situation) B: Somewhere a LOT bigger than Earth, since he can't exactly fly. Flash is a higher level Earth based hero, Surfer is a low level cosmic. Runner is a slightly higher level cosmic. Who has totally punked Champion, btw. 😈

Runner also defeated Surfer.

No, it was not defeat. It was utter owning. There was simply nothing Surfer could do. And Runner was playing with him - after the fight he said that it was fun.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Runner also defeated Surfer.

No, it was not defeat. It was utter owning. There was simply nothing Surfer could do. And Runner was playing with him - after the fight he said that it was fun.

hey runner is sky father.

stop picking on the surfer...... 🙁

I think Runner is an Elder, not an skyfather...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elders_of_the_Universe

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I think Runner is an Elder, not an skyfather...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elders_of_the_Universe

I mean in term's of power level .............

of course he is an elder.

Spider-Man

He gets ass kicked by Daredevil, Black Cat and the Kingpin.