Originally posted by jrodslam
Well first off, youre wrong. Matt has "seen" "sensed" cloaked beings that werent even moving. It has nothing to do with sound. Sorry.
Sensed is a BIG jump from SEEN in Daredevil's case. Even if he sensed something and had an idea someone was around doesn't mean he could find them, he'd still be for all purposes blind. I don't doubt that Murdock has sensed cloaked being before, they more than likely weren't shielded from sound. He more than likely heard another cloaked beings heartbeat, footsteps, breathing, and any other movement that would be easy for him to detect. Now back to that key word again. The vibranium that is in the Panther's suit and on the soles of his feet gets rid off all that access sound so there is none. Now unless DD has developed some new mystical power over the years that allows him to SENSE things that are essentially not there, like T'Challa can, I'm stumped. T'Challa has a mystical bond with the Panther God which allows him to perform certain feats most men can't. Thus why he was able to defeat Mephisto. And even if Daredevil could, which I have some reservations about, there's no chance he could discriminately pin point the location of Panther before he'd get his ass kicked. Sorry.
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If you go back and read my post, youll see that i never mentioned anything about Daredevil using the billclub for attacking. Aires_04 mentioned that Panther can jump from 60 stories. I mentioned the billclub to point out the fact that Daredevil doesnt have to jump 60 stories. He has the billclub to swing 60 stories.
Understood. I was responding to the comment in which you stated that his suit in a pursuit situation was " useless ". Perhaps I wasn't clear enough? My mistake. Not only can Panther leap 60 stories down, he can do it without a SOUND. No sound. Daredevil if I'm not mistaken does require SOUND to see in his fashion, yes? In a fight where you have an adversary who's just as fast as you are if not faster who makes little to no sound don't you think that's a bit dangerous?
Once again, i mentioned that in response to Aires_04 saying that Panther has taken hits from the Hulk. Daredevil has taken those hits as well. There was no point in him mentioning that. Panther may hit harder than Daredevil, but we all know strength isnt everything in battles. How do BP's senses do against DD's? As far as all street level characters in Marvel go, daredevil is no.1 overall when it comes to senses. I know BP is enhanced.
True. Strength is not everything in a fight. But when it's combined with all the other elements it tends to be a deal closer especially when concerning hand to hand combatants. How do BP's sense fair against DD's? While his sense of hearing may not be AS keen as Daredevil's, they do rival Wolverine's. In various Panther titles The Avengers refered to Black Panther as the world's " greatest " tracker. Such was stated by both Priest and Hudlin as well.
What allows you to make that statement? How can you prove that BP is faster and more agile than Daredevil? If he fires energy from his gloves like Aires_04 stated, that has nothing to do with BP's speed or agility. So yes, most likely DD would indeed dodge BP's blasts with ease.
Unfettered proof? No. I do not have any at this time. I based my comments from the what I've read in the comics. The Black Panther possess super human reflexes attributed to not only extensive training he's undergone but to the heart-shaped herb which grants him PEAK physical prowess. Not unlike Captain America. This means his strength, speed, agility..etc are all strained to the peak of what is humanly possible. The herb in combination with his already immaculate physical prowess makes him a great challenge right? Now combine his already enhanced cat-like agility and speed with his vibranium suit. He's been able to run vertically UP wallls until he reaches the top of a building. I doubt Daredevil can perform such a feat. But you're correct. I have no matched up proof that states " Black Panther is faster and more agile than Daredevil overall. " Dodge with ease? I doubt it. But yeah, he'd dodge them.
Matt has been training since he was a kid. Id qualify that as a lifetime of training as well. Is that an assumption that he has more skill than DD? Can you prove that? [/B]
Yes. Matt was just some kid from New York. Yes, he was blind because of his incident and yes he trained to be better than what he was. His feats aren't going unrecognized. But that period of time that he wasn't in turmoil and became blind T'Challa was being groomed as a Warrior King of a Nation hailed in the Marvel Universe as being one of the most technologically sound Warrior nations in existance. It's not an assumption, it's a fact. The two cannot be compared. T'Challa was not given the choice. His father from the moment he could walk made certain that his heir was conditioned into one of the greatest fighters and had him extensively tested and trained throughout his life.
