Lightsaber duels in Original Trilogy

Lucas used to say that they were really heavy, hence two hands when using.

Now because of the PT adn the latter RotJ use of the lightsaber he has to come up with lame excuses.

They say now, that the lightsaber blade has no weight, only the hilt does. This is also another attempt by Lucasarts to make the sabers even harder to wield, limiting their use to extremely skilled swordmans, or Force-sensitives.

I was just looking through and all i have to say is listen to Cascador hes right and how would Obi-wan forget how to use a light saber let alone Darth Vader he was one of the best during the jedis time. saying that because its a diffrent time thats why they cant fight I'd Like to see one of you or any one use a forty pound lightsaber hilt with one had for ten minutes.

Don't forget another thing

in story, Obi-Wan was getting older and Vader was getting weaker (that's why the emperor wanted to replace him)

So that is a good reason for not jumping, making salto's, leaps ao. Okay they are Jedi, but they are also human. Another thing is cause I know you'll wonder what about Dooku? He's also old, the emperor...well Obi-Wan didn't practice anymore with his lightsaber anymore on his sollitude on Tatooine, would also create attraction, which is the last thing he could use...Dooku kept training even when he grew older.

Luke is just not experienced enough in lightsaber fighting. I do believe he is strong and wise in the Force, which makes him a Jedi.

The PT fights are a bit monotonous. I mean, all it is is people swinging their lightsabers in two different directions alternatively, while in the PT there were more than two strike tactics. They're a bit slow, but what would you expect if no one's used a lightsaber against a lightsaber for twenty years?

Vader did. And you mean the OT the second time right?

No after the Jedi Purge, Vader almost didn't use his lightsaber either...It shows so in some comics, but it's probably not true.
Besides I don't see him that dynamic as Anakin was in the comics either.

I don't really care what anyone says, with prosthetic limbs and a mobile iron lung, you're not gonna be able to do what ROTS Jedi did, despite your power.

The duels were slow, because GL orriginaly intended 1) Lightabres to be extremly heavy, stated by mark hamill 2) if they moved the sabres to fast in those days they wudnt be able to animate them properly and theyd look shite. but i dnt think ESB and ROTJ are that bad and slow, sure theres no super duper effectes but its not like there bad.

Since both trilogies were made during different times, I think the sword-play of both trilogies is appropriately proportionate to their time of production.

I agree with Tangible God here. The OT was made in the 70s-80s, and its effects were absoloutly stunning for its time, but they don't seem so now, hence many thinking that the PT duels are better.

Also, as mentioned before, in the OT all the characters are older and/or have lost valuable practice time over the years. As for Luke, he didn't really train for that long if you think about it. He also began what training he had extremely late considering it was said that Ani started too late at about 9 or 10. If 10's late, then 19's practically ancient for beginning training.

I don't understand this concept of wanting to remake the OT. Special effects touch-ups I can imagine, as were done for the boxed-set release of the OT, but a total remake would ruin it. I, for one, can't imagine Han Solo as anyone other than Henry Ford. The casting was perfect, and "bad" special effects shouldn't be a reason to just redo something perfectly good (read: absoloutly amazing).

To see a dynamic fighting Vader can only be done in CGI! I never want to see that! Would be much much much worse! Cause no stuntguy can pull that off how they fought in the PT in that costume!

Christ. I wish people would STOP being such fanboys over the PT. Yes. The OT duels didn't have a lot of effects going for it. So f*cking what? The only thing that mattered was the EMOTION running through the two characters doing the dueling. And I'd rate the ROTJ duel SLIGHTLY higher than the ESB one.

Originally posted by office jesus
Christ. I wish people would STOP being such fanboys over the PT. Yes. The OT duels didn't have a lot of effects going for it. So f*cking what? The only thing that mattered was the EMOTION running through the two characters doing the dueling. And I'd rate the ROTJ duel SLIGHTLY higher than the ESB one.

I agree, my favourite movie of all of them was Rotj, because the old ones were great cause they focused more on dialogue and GOOD ACTING! rather than uber special effects(and the effects were stunning, absolutely incredible for the time period.) The newer ones had some crappy dialogue and annoying scenes. So they had to cover it up with great effects and stuff. Have you ever heard of the saying : " If you cant win them with reason, baffle them with bull shit" ? Also I would like to note that (lol) I think after Vader had been just choking people out with a flick of his wrist for 20 years, he kinda forgot how to actually WORK for his killings. I know that if I had to choose between getting all close and personal with a dude, or just strangling him from 30 feet away, I would choose the latter.

OT duels are far more realistic and better than the crap PT ones.

You must see that about 20+ years passed between the OT and the PT so by the time the Phantom Meance came out people wanted more flashy duels with all sorts of cool features. It wasn't as much as change in tech as in change of taste but the OT duels are better then the PT duels expect Anakin vs. Obi-Wan.