Classic Juggernaut vs. Mindless Hulk and Thing

Started by AngelCorpse69774 pages

Woah guys, lets hold up here on this unstoppable kick, yes i know once he gets moving in a direction theres no force on earth that can stop him. Look this up if you dont believe it. No force on earth has been able to stop juggy, except for one exception, the hulk. Yes juggy can fight for an eternity and never tire, but the fight wouldnt take that long. You honestly think hulk is going to let this fight drag out?? Come on now....and the thing, im not going to say that he is the strongest thing ever, but he for sure deserves ALOT more credit. So my opinion.... Hulk vs. Juggy, hulk.....Hulk and Thing vs. Juggy, Hulk and thing.

On a side note, i love how people always bring up hulks lack of intelligence into the matter. Has anyone taken into account his savage, rage induced fighting style, it is most similar to like wolverines, balls out fighting on pure instinct to just beat the opponent down. No thought, no remorse, no care.

I think people are taking into accoutn the fact that Juggernaut has already knocked both of these guys out, while neither one of them can say the same.

Originally posted by Warmonger
I think people are taking into accoutn the fact that Juggernaut has already knocked both of these guys out, while neither one of them can say the same.

time out!!!! When has juggernaut knock the hulk out?? I give jug all the credit he deserves but i don't remember any instance where he knock hulk out.

Originally posted by AngelCorpse6977
Woah guys, lets hold up here on this unstoppable kick, yes i know once he gets moving in a direction theres no force on earth that can stop him. Look this up if you dont believe it. No force on earth has been able to stop juggy, except for one exception, the hulk. Yes juggy can fight for an eternity and never tire, but the fight wouldnt take that long. You honestly think hulk is going to let this fight drag out?? Come on now....and the thing, im not going to say that he is the strongest thing ever, but he for sure deserves ALOT more credit. So my opinion.... Hulk vs. Juggy, hulk.....Hulk and Thing vs. Juggy, Hulk and thing.

On a side note, i love how people always bring up hulks lack of intelligence into the matter. Has anyone taken into account his savage, rage induced fighting style, it is most similar to like wolverines, balls out fighting on pure instinct to just beat the opponent down. No thought, no remorse, no care.

The only Hulk that stopped Juggernaut was WAR HULK. He was special because he was endowed with celestial tech (tech that was of higher power than Cyttorak apparently) which negated Juggernaut's enchantment. Too bad this isn't War Hulk in this match.

Now, if you wanna start throwing comic references around...Juggernaut almost killed Hulk. He was just about to do it, but Red Skull stopped him.

What does that tell you?

And knocking out Thing in three punches? Nah, couldn't have been Juggernaut...oh wait...

Yea. So, in conclusion, Classic Juggernaut still stomps both of these guys.

Originally posted by Warmonger
I think people are taking into accoutn the fact that Juggernaut has already knocked both of these guys out, while neither one of them can say the same.

Juggernaut has never fought mindless Hulk and when he knocked Thing out, he had just been through a gauntlet of villains and was exhausted.

So let me understand this, youre wanting to compare a strictly strength contest....Juggernaut I will give all the credit in the world, because yes he does deserve it, but when you want to match a strength battle against him and the hulk, espically the mindless hulk, there is no comparision. Hulk from the start is stronger, and with his rage enduced strength, his strength level is unparralled even by someone as strong as Juggernaut. As for the thing, i never said he could fully go toe to toe with either, but he is far from being as weak as everyone wants to make, and he is stubborn enough to get getting back up. That gives him some credit in my book, but then again it may not in yours.

For some reason Juggernaut's reputation went from being a top tier brick to being some omnipotent infinity crushing machine. Made up stats are being made up, things are getting ugly.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Juggernaut has never fought mindless Hulk and when he knocked Thing out, he had just been through a gauntlet of villains and was exhausted.

What difference do you imagine it would make? Hulk has fought Savage Hulk without being injured he even commented that Hulk can't understand a being he can't hurt. It was the X-Men who had to show up to stop him cause the Hulk couln't do it. Even War Hulk super enchaced with Celestial Tech didn't hurt him. So tell me what makes you think that this "Mindless Hulk" is going to beat him.

Yeah Thing had been fighting a gauntlet of villians, but what you fail to mention is that Thing had gottena super power boost from the beyonder before he fought him so don't act like he was tired.

Originally posted by AngelCorpse6977
So let me understand this, youre wanting to compare a strictly strength contest....Juggernaut I will give all the credit in the world, because yes he does deserve it, but when you want to match a strength battle against him and the hulk, espically the mindless hulk, there is no comparision. Hulk from the start is stronger, and with his rage enduced strength, his strength level is unparralled even by someone as strong as Juggernaut. As for the thing, i never said he could fully go toe to toe with either, but he is far from being as weak as everyone wants to make, and he is stubborn enough to get getting back up. That gives him some credit in my book, but then again it may not in yours.

This isn't a strictly strentgh contest, this is the THing and Hulk trying to take down the Juggernaut.

The Hulk doesn't start out stronger and he has never shown to get stronger than Cain in any fight against the Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
For some reason Juggernaut's reputation went from being a top tier brick to being some omnipotent infinity crushing machine. Made up stats are being made up, things are getting ugly.

What stat is beign made up?

Originally posted by Warmonger
What difference do you imagine it would make? Hulk has fought Savage Hulk without being injured he even commented that Hulk can't understand a being he can't hurt. It was the X-Men who had to show up to stop him cause the Hulk couln't do it. Even War Hulk super enchaced with Celestial Tech didn't hurt him. So tell me what makes you think that this "Mindless Hulk" is going to beat him.

What makes you think Juggernaut would win? I never said Hulk and Thing would beat Juggernaut because they've never head a clean win on him but on the flip side, Juggernaut's never beaten Hulk or Thing without some kind of stipulation. Juggernaut did whomp Professor Hulk but he was physically one of the weaker Hulks and the only fight with Thing that I know of was after the gauntlet of villains.

Yeah Thing had been fighting a gauntlet of villians, but what you fail to mention is that Thing had gottena super power boost from the beyonder before he fought him so don't act like he was tired.

A "super" power boost can only do so much. Maybe if you add a "duper" in there you'd be more persuasive.

Originally posted by Warmonger
What stat is beign made up?

Mostly the stuff regarding how powerful he is in each version. Like blahblah% power in this form and yaddayadda% during 8th day, etc.

juggernaut beat hulk to near death in one comic. He was called off before he could finish the job. Besides classic juggernaut was completly invulnerable. He thought attacks like thor's god force tickled. no amount of physical hits will save Hulk and thing when juggs has a force feild. they just can't hurt him.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
What makes you think Juggernaut would win? I never said Hulk and Thing would beat Juggernaut because they've never head a clean win on him but on the flip side, Juggernaut's never beaten Hulk or Thing without some kind of stipulation. Juggernaut did whomp Professor Hulk but he was physically one of the weaker Hulks and the only fight with Thing that I know of was after the gauntlet of villains..

They've never even had a partial win on him. Any thing they can do he can do back but he can take it prety much forever, hence he wins bye default.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
A "super" power boost can only do so much. Maybe if you add a "duper" in there you'd be more persuasive..

What would be more persuasuive? Tell you what, I'll add a "duper" in there. During his Super Duper power up Thing effortlessly beat some 99 villians, he wasn't tired. When the beyonder took it back he didn't suddely collapse from exhaustion he simply lost his super duper power up, then he lost conciosness after juggs gave him three good hits.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Mostly the stuff regarding how powerful he is in each version. Like blahblah% power in this form and yaddayadda% during 8th day, etc.

Hey don't look at me I'm not the one talking about someone being 10x stronger than someone with no known strentgh limit.

Originally posted by Warmonger
They've never even had a partial win on him. Any thing they can do he can do back but he can take it prety much forever, hence he wins bye default.

War Hulk was definitely a loss for Juggernaut. I don't think the sword would of done anything but it could of gotten much uglier if Creel hadn't interrupted. Celestial tech is nothing to scoff at.

What would be more persuasuive?

I mean putting "super" in front of the word just seemed kind of silly to me.

Thing effortlessly beat some 99 villians, he wasn't tired. When the beyonder took it back he didn't suddely collapse from exhaustion he simply lost his super duper power up, then he lost conciosness after juggs gave him three good hits.

So he lost all the power that boost was giving him? I bet he was at 100% still!

Regardless, he still managed to trip up Juggernaut while on the ground, which was his only goal I believe and he accomplished it.

Hey don't look at me I'm not the one talking about someone being 10x stronger than someone with no known strentgh limit.

No... I mean they say things like "In this form he had XX% of the gem" or "he was at XX% of cyttorak's power". What are you talking about?

Juggs wins without trying. He can't be hurt by physical attacks and since thats all the thing and ANY version of the hulk have they have no hope. Juggernaut could stand there and let the thing and hulk pound on him until the end of time and they still couldn't even stratch him.

Originally posted by outarddwarf
juggernaut beat hulk to near death in one comic. He was called off before he could finish the job. .

When did this happen?

Originally posted by superbatman86
Juggs wins without trying. He can't be hurt by physical attacks and since thats all the thing and ANY version of the hulk have they have no hope. Juggernaut could stand there and let the thing and hulk pound on him until the end of time and they still couldn't even stratch him.

I don't know what issue this was but i could have sworn i saw juggernaut on his knees holding his stomache as if he just got the wind knock out of him. I can accept the fact that juggernaut is unstoppable and a worthy competitor but don't say stuff like jugg win without trying, that's very insulting. There's more than one way to win a match, knockout isn't the only way to win. A ring out can count as a win as well. What i see ultimately in a match between these two is hulk getting so overwhelmingly strong that he throw juggernaut like a rag doll and juggernaut just laughing because hulk isn't able to hurt him.

Originally posted by doomsday49
When did this happen?

I forgot the issue but Juggernaut wrecked Professor Hulk pretty bad. He was going to kill him but Red Skull paid him to capture Hulk so he let him go.

Originally posted by doomsday49
I don't know what issue this was but i could have sworn i saw juggernaut on his knees holding his stomache as if he just got the wind knock out of him.

I still think it looks like he's getting back up. He was hit on the opposite side of his torso.

I can accept the fact that juggernaut is unstoppable and a worthy competitor but don't say stuff like jugg win without trying, that's very insulting.

Tell me about it. It wasn't that long ago where few of us fought just to prove Juggernaut was in Hulk's league. Now he's made out to be way too much more.

I agree that it won't be easy to win, what with both Juggy and the Hulk continuously increasing in strength and such. But Juggy's mystical enchantments are what will give him the edge in this fight.

And a ringout is only a victory if the opponent cannot return under his own power and/or knocked out from the ringout.

Juggernaut, however, has the ability to always return from whatever ringout he's placed in. No matter how long it takes him, he is always able to return to the battefield under his own power. So a ringout just isn't a valid idea.

The same could be said about Hulk. And depending on how long this fight goes... Whatever's left of Thing will evolve and come back.