Character Ownage

Started by carver95,121 pages
Originally posted by psycho gundam
now comes the carver induced, overwrought negative reaction to all things hulk.

Psycho...you are a cool guy but DA**, you complain too much. Stop crying all of the time and stop trying to throw people under the bus. If you are going to debate, come on here and debate.

Originally posted by carver9

I have been pushing the character too hard. I need to slow down a bit and maybe people would start respecting the character more.

Originally posted by carver9
If you are going to debate, come on here and debate.
whenever you're ready

Originally posted by carver9
Why do you think they take it to another level? The character was built to be based off of strength kind of like Flash is built on speed. He is the embodiment of strength just like Thor is the God of thunder.

I agree though, lately, they have been pushing the character too hard...they need to slow down a bit but maybe with these showings, people would start respecting the character more.

Because they do. Not only does Hulk get -undeserved- spotlight, but Thor also gets gimped. Hulk's strong, sure, he should have the strength edge on Thor in the movie, but that's all. Any farther than that, and you start moving away from precedent and might as well make Iron Man the most powerful Avenger.

The Hulk's fine as he is, and I'm not against him getting time to shine, but he gets too much while Thor gets too little. It kind of doubles back as a result if you're a Thor fan.

😐

The Hulk gets enough respect, some just take it too far (Because of Pak mostly) and people as a knee jerk reaction lowball. It happens to literally every single notable character once in a while, Hulk's not special in this regard or particularly hated, Superman gets it worse, you just notice it more because you are sometimes a catalyst for the negativity.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you will never get it with your hateraid shades on. Hulk is a awesome AND EXTREMELY powerful character.

You're half right, at least.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Because they do. Not only does Hulk get -undeserved- spotlight, but Thor also gets gimped. Hulk's strong, sure, he should have the strength edge on Thor in the movie, but that's all. Any farther than that, and you start moving away from precedent and might as well make Iron Man the most powerful Avenger.

The Hulk's fine as he is, and I'm not against him getting time to shine, but he gets too much while Thor gets too little. It kind of doubles back as a result if you're a Thor fan.

😐

The Hulk gets enough respect, some just take it too far (Because of Pak mostly) and people as a knee jerk reaction lowball. It happens to literally every single notable character once in a while, Hulk's not special in this regard or particularly hated, Superman gets it worse, you just notice it more because you are sometimes a catalyst for the negativity.

What spot light has Hulk got though? Are you referring to the DVD movies he came out with last year? Thor had a couple of those as well along with 2 or 3 animated movies.

I agreed with you about the spot light "comic wise" but in the movies, Thor stands out more imo. He even stood out in the World War Hulk movie when he annihilated Korg and the crew.

Either Thor or Hulk had to become more powerful, it was crazy that they were peers from the start and I guess they chose Hulk for the increase in power. The thing about this is, no matter what power increase Hulk or any other Herald gets, Thor will always have some type of tool to stop them because he is just that powerful. This is still being shown (mainly in comics) and this will always be unless they do some type of reboot or depower him.

I don't get why you feel the way you do when Thor is still knocking around abstracts. I don't get why you feel the way you do about his movies and showings during scenes when Thor had an amazing movie along with the most animation scenes time out of any character in marvel or DC.

Basically, I'm confused.

Originally posted by carver9
with the most animation scenes time out of any character in marvel or DC.

No he doesn't....not even close to being the most

Originally posted by jalek moye
No he doesn't....not even close to being the most

Which hero have the most.? Thor showed up with him fighting Hulk...he was in World War Hulk, he made a movie showing him and Loki as kids and he made some other animation that wasn't that good, cant think of the name of it but its on Netflix. I know I'm missing something but all of this was done last year. Who did more than that?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have a strong urge to make sure you find out how your intestines taste. But seriously, I'd punch you in the face, might seem a bit extreme but I am a soccer fan.

Whatever. It's not my fault you don't realize movie Thor is not the same as comic Thor.

Stop bitching about the screentime of each character and at least try to see the movie first.

I don't like Black Widow, she's an extremely boring, one dimensional character and she definitely doesn't belong in the Avengers movie, especially not the first one.

This being said, who cares ? It's just a movie.

Originally posted by carver9
Which hero have the most.? Thor showed up with him fighting Hulk...he was in World War Hulk, he made a movie showing him and Loki as kids and he made some other animation that wasn't that good, cant think of the name of it but its on Netflix. I know I'm missing something but all of this was done last year. Who did more than that?

....Superman has been in like 10 things i nthe last few years alone.

let alone count his whole history and tv shows

Originally posted by carver9
What spot light has Hulk got though? Are you referring to the DVD movies he came out with last year? Thor had a couple of those as well along with 2 or 3 animated movies.

I agreed with you about the spot light "comic wise" but in the movies, Thor stands out more imo. He even stood out in the World War Hulk movie when he annihilated Korg and the crew.

Either Thor or Hulk had to become more powerful, it was crazy that they were peers from the start and I guess they chose Hulk for the increase in power. The thing about this is, no matter what power increase Hulk or any other Herald gets, Thor will always have some type of tool to stop them because he is just that powerful. This is still being shown (mainly in comics) and this will always be unless they do some type of reboot or depower him.

I don't get why you feel the way you do when Thor is still knocking around abstracts. I don't get why you feel the way you do about his movies and showings during scenes when Thor had an amazing movie along with the most animation scenes time out of any character in marvel or DC.

Basically, I'm confused.

Yes, Carver, you are confused. Seems to be the story of your life.

I thought I made it abundantly clear that my complaints were directed purely to the Avenger's movie, at best, I was talking about the movie part of Marvel as a whole. Why in the hell you're bringing up comics is beyond me, I know Thor's doing fine on that end.

What spotlight has Hulk received? Why are you so goddamn f*cking stupid Carver? You have to be trolling in order to get a reaction out of me, there's no other possible explanation for this besides defective mental faculties. I made it clear that he gets his d*ck sucked during the Avengers, to make matters worse, you're referring to Marvel as a whole, making your question even more idiotic.

We had the Hulk's original TV series, the Hulk's original animated series on Fox, Ultimate Avengers, Hulk vs., EMH, and the Future Avengers movie where Thor had only one scene compared to the Hulk. As a whole, Hulk has received much more screen time than Thor as far as the general public is concerned, nothing debatable, on top of that, Thor has this bad habit of being his whooping boy the moment they step on to a movie set.

Thor stands out more, he beat up Hulk in the Planet Hulk DVD, he has the most animation time out of any comic book character?

That's complete bullshit and I'm a Thor fan, Beta Ray Bill was at Planet Hulk and got his ass kicked in the end, Superman/Batman/Spider-Man/Hulk all think you're an idiot. Clearly you aren't even pretending to be serious (As much as one can be in this context), bravo for eliciting a reaction from me Carver. Let's hope we never meet in person for your sake.

Originally posted by jalek moye
....Superman has been in like 10 things i nthe last few years alone.

let alone count his whole history and tv shows

I agree, Superman had been in a lot of shows, I'm talking about animated movies that was done last year.

Originally posted by SamZED
I rarely defend Wolverine is cause i know im not needed with you, Stilt, Jin, Dum Dum and Carv having his back. All the more time for me to focus on backing up Spidey and Deadpool.🙂

No mention of me? I'm going to take that as proof of my unbiased bipartisanship. 😎

SamZED stamp of approval.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Whatever. It's not my fault you don't realize movie Thor is not the same as comic Thor.

Stop bitching about the screentime of each character and at least try to see the movie first.

I don't like Black Widow, she's an extremely boring, one dimensional character and she definitely doesn't belong in the Avengers movie, especially not the first one.

This being said, who cares ? It's just a movie.

Thank you very much Holmes, I'm well aware that they're only adaptations of the comic Universe, but that's not a valid excuse for the discrepancy, even between movies or are you okay with movie Captain America being granted heat vision?

I'm sorry, are my complaints that Thor has gotten gimped again not valid enough for you? He gets a decent amount of screen time but doesn't live up to set expectations, which is even more obvious by how the other characters are portrayed.

Obviously I do, or I wouldn't be posting now would I jackass? If you don't care, you could always stop posting, after all, no one's asking for your opinion.

And it's just a movie? Is that a poor attempt at humor? This is the freaking Avengers movie.

I haven't seen the movie myself, that is a valid point, but rants aren't people at their most logical so whatever.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, Superman had been in a lot of shows, I'm talking about animated movies that was done last year.

This is the internet Carver, you can't make up stuff like this and hope no one has a record of what you said earlier. At no point did you make that arbitrary and completely irrelevant distinction.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree, Superman had been in a lot of shows, I'm talking about animated movies that was done last year.

last year? only one movie came out 2011 with thor in it

Originally posted by jalek moye
last year? only one movie came out 2011 with thor in it

Not animated movies though. He had at least 3 to my knowledge and 2 or 3 appearances in "animated" movies.

Originally posted by carver9
Not animated movies though. He had at least 3 to my knowledge and 2 or 3 appearances in "animated" movies.

No, planet hulk was 2010 and next avengers 2008

tales of asgard 2011

only 1 animated

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thank you very much Holmes, I'm well aware that they're only adaptations of the comic Universe, but that's not a valid excuse for the discrepancy, or are you okay with movie Captain America being granted heat vision?

I'm sorry, are my complaints that Thor has gotten gimped again not valid enough for you? He gets a decent amount of screen time but doesn't live up to set expectations, which is even more obvious by how the other characters are portrayed.

Obviously I do, or I wouldn't be posting now would I jackass? If you don't care, you could always stop posting, after all, no one's asking for your opinion.

And it's just a movie? Is that a poor attempt at humor? This is the freaking Avengers movie.

This is the internet Carver, you can't make up stuff like this and hope no one has a record of what you said earlier. At no point did you make that arbitrary and completely irrelevant distinction.

Yeah, I can see where I could have confused him because I wasn't clear but I meant movies in general, not shows.

Originally posted by jalek moye
No, planet hulk was 2010 and next avengers 2008

tales of asgard 2011

only 1 animated

Wait, I think it is still on Netflix...let me see. One sec. By the way, tales of asgard is the movie where Thor and Loki were kids right?

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, I think it is still on Netflix...let me see. One sec. By the way, tales of asgard is the movie where Thor and Loki were kids right?

Yes, and i own each of those. They came out years apart

just google them

Originally posted by jalek moye
Yes, and i own each of those. They came out years apart

just google them

I was wrong. It was shows that they made of Thor...those weird shows with the great art that they made of the Xmen and Ironman as well. You were right. I still think he gets enough screen time imo (even though I know you were not arguing otherwise..just saying).