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Lol, still on that zombie Dragon shit?

Superman benched the planet for 5 days casually but he didn't look anywhere near that strong later in the issue. It's unusual for such an inconsistency to occur in the same comic but whatever, shit happens.

Classic Drax had more impressive feats and Thor/Superman are stronger than him.

Why it's noteworthy to me is because for a long time DC had an unspoken rule about their Top Tiers moving planetary bodies regularly due to not wanting to go back to the Pre-Crisis shit. It was kind of stupid but whatever. For example, Joe Kelly had Majestic rearranging the Solar System and he would probably be unable to do that at the time with Superman due to editorial without a powerup but I have no doubt that he considered Clark to be stronger when push comes to shove.

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Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The regular kryptonian deal(to monstrous levels) along with some top notch psionics and teleportation from what I have seen so far.

I liked Philosophia's theory that H'el is probably a future renegade incarnation of Superman himself.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, still on that zombie Dragon shit?

Superman benched the planet for 5 days casually but he didn't look anywhere near that strong later in the issue. It's unusual for such an inconsistency to occur in the same comic but whatever, shit happens.

Its not inconsistent though. Superman getting overpowered by a mile long kryptonian monster is not drax getting chumped by captain mar-vell.

Classic Drax had more impressive feats and Thor/Superman are stronger than him.

Two different cases. Drax was momentarily downed by mar-vell in the same issue where he destroyed a planet and a sun and mar-vell took three of his punches to the chin and didn't even move. This case is different because it was noted from the beginning that the creature's durability was shit due to it being dead.

Why it's noteworthy to me is because for a long time DC had an unspoken rule about their Top Tiers moving planetary bodies regularly due to not wanting to go back to the Pre-Crisis shit. It was kind of stupid but whatever. For example, Joe Kelly had Majestic rearranging the Solar System and he would probably be unable to do that at the time with Superman due to editorial without a powerup but I have no doubt that he considered Clark to be stronger when push comes to shove.

That was stupid I agree.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
The regular kryptonian deal(to monstrous levels) along with some top notch psionics and teleportation from what I have seen so far.

I liked Philosophia's theory that H'el is probably a future renegade incarnation of Superman himself.

Abhi, where was it stated that its durability was faltering due to decay?

That seemed to be something only assumed by readers.

It's durability wasn't actually shit at all, seeing as it survived a small mountain busting punch, and then got killed only by a large explosion that would go beyond small mountain sized. (seeing as the thing is a mile long, its already small mountain sized in and of itself, and the explosion was far larger than itself).

Fellow Super freaks, don't be so easily baited facepalm

Why is this argument popping up again?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Abhi, where was it stated that its durability was faltering due to decay?

That seemed to be something only assumed by readers.

It's durability wasn't actually shit at all, seeing as it survived a small mountain busting punch, and then got killed only by a large explosion that would go beyond small mountain sized. (seeing as the thing is a mile long, its already small mountain sized in and of itself, and the explosion was far larger than itself).

Guys, this isn't the place for this.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Fellow Super freaks, don't be so easily baited facepalm

Originally posted by Galan007

H'el >>> Superman.

Superboy put up a better fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Superboy put up a better fight.

Classy carver as always.

Anyway, in one of the best strength feats ever by a herald Mon-el moves a white dwarf star from a different galaxy to earth

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol, still on that zombie Dragon shit?

Superman benched the planet for 5 days casually but he didn't look anywhere near that strong later in the issue. It's unusual for such an inconsistency to occur in the same comic but whatever, shit happens.

Classic Drax had more impressive feats and Thor/Superman are stronger than him.

Why it's noteworthy to me is because for a long time DC had an unspoken rule about their Top Tiers moving planetary bodies regularly due to not wanting to go back to the Pre-Crisis shit. It was kind of stupid but whatever. For example, Joe Kelly had Majestic rearranging the Solar System and he would probably be unable to do that at the time with Superman due to editorial without a powerup but I have no doubt that he considered Clark to be stronger when push comes to shove.

I didn't really see any inconsistencies in that issue. He hit it with a punch to destroy a mountain, obviously he didn't want to hit it way too hard or he might damage the Earth. And the thing itself was Kryptonian and thus was getting powers from the yellow sun. Probably was weaker than Superman since it just arrived and Supes had been absorbing solar energy for longer.

Originally posted by carver9
Superboy put up a better fight.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
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Wow.

Wonder how many days THAT guy could bench press Earth ...?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
That dragon thing was weird, but considering over everything now, it wasn't actually an inconsistent creature at all.

It was only ko'd by a 'small mountain busting' punch from Superman --Which is fair, the thing literally was the size of a small mountain as it towered over skyscrapers and Dr. Veritas confirms its size more concretely by saying it was a mile long.

And then gets killed by a giant oil explosion--granted, at first mention this simply sounds pathetic, but considering how big the thing was and how big the explosion was in comparison (the dragon barely took up any space in the panel with the explosion, which took up the majority of the panel), you come to realize that an explosion of that size would be roughly on par with a modest sized nuke in output.

and that's a very modest nuclear explosion. very

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
😕

Wow.

Wonder how many days THAT guy could bench press Earth ...?