Character Ownage

Started by Parmaniac5,121 pages

After seeing Solus raping Enigma Force Spider-Man I have a feeling we will see that Ultimate Nullifier one Spider-Man was packing again.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Although to put a (potential) pin in that theory, Amora was running around fighting Red Onslaught...

In other words, she not only acts heroically for the sake of Asgard and Thor, she also randomly acts heroically for Midgard as well.

Originally posted by Galan007
Thor was still shown with both arms intact in AXIS #7(the most recent issue):
http://i.imgur.com/PDctOxu.jpg

Therefore, the events of AXIS obviously take place before the events of Whor #1--which is when Thor lost his arm, and Whor was officially born.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I stand corrected, though it hurts me to even acknowledge it, much less type these words.

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Wait, Digi, just to be clear, are you saying that Lady Thor's feat doesn't count towards her combat potential at this point? Or that you think it shouldn't or that it's irrelevant? I think that's a little silly. Aren't feats what we use usually when talking about who would beat who in a fight?

I mean, of course when Lady Thor beats Thor it will be because of the writer and editors. That is the same for every comic fight. I know that character's often are hyped up and do incredible stuff when they first show up to build up their appeal. (like Rulk). But at this point this feat is really all we have to go on as to who we think wins in a fight based on the only evidence we have.

Was your problem with what I said the fact that I said normal Thor couldn't do what she did?

Originally posted by Galan007
Carnage/Sin-Eater:

The missle and tendril spreading are actually 2 pretty damn awesome feats

Originally posted by emporerpants
Wow. Thor is going to get stomped. So this new lady Thor is quite a bit stronger than normal Thor huh? Normal Thor could never do that.

I wouldn't go that far.

Thor has molded uru metal into a hammer and has crushed uru manacles into dust with his bare hands. Closest thing I can compare her feat to.

Perhaps. I hope that Thor puts up a good fight. I highly doubt that they'll have him win.

Originally posted by emporerpants
Wow. Thor is going to get stomped. So this new lady Thor is quite a bit stronger than normal Thor huh? Normal Thor could never do that.

You're not just clueless, but you're also an idiot.

WW/Darkseid:

Originally posted by Parmaniac
The missle and tendril spreading are actually 2 pretty damn awesome feats
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There was also this:

...Which I was pretty impressed by.

That seems like something taken directly from Species 2, to be honest.

I presume that, after this scene, Carnage reverts to form and kills the girl he fought to save?

Originally posted by Galan007
...Which I was pretty impressed by.
Yeah saw that when I read the comic, it even puts the symbiote enhanced sniperrifle shot to shame from Carnage vs. Deadpool.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
That seems like something taken directly from Species 2, to be honest.

I presume that, after this scene, Carnage reverts to form and kills the girl he fought to save?

No, Scarlet Witch turned him hero, he said he learned his final hero lesson, that he has to be alone. The scene in his mind how his life would/could have been with her was pure gold

Originally posted by Parmaniac

No, [Carnage did NOT kill Alice after the shotgun scene!], Scarlet Witch turned [Carnage] hero,
he said he learned his final hero lesson, that he has to be alone.

The scene in his mind how his life would/could have been with her was pure gold

Huh. Not the complete knockoff I thought it would turn out to be then.

In Species 2, following ITS shotgun-blowing-head-off scene, the "man" that emerges is nearly completely alien controlled, lacking all morality.
Effectively, the relatively good man he was dies and remains dead in that film, despite physical restoration.

What you just told me happens in this Carnage comicbook story seems to be a near-complete 180 from that script.

Intriguing change.
They've certainly not made any semblance of morality stick to Carnage before now.

Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by Digi
Yes, one overthought feat, which I guarantee has been broken down more thoroughly in the last two pages than it ever was in Marvel's offices, surely spells doom for Marvel's standard bearer for top tier heroes over the last 30+ years.

She may win, convincingly even. Marvel hasn't been above humbling Thor quite thoroughly in recent years. But it will be because of the narrative decision, not because some decision was made about her hands' ability to push through vibranium.

You say this as if it's a bad thing.

So, i guess Damian Wayne is going to be a lot stronger and faster than Batman, with new super powers.

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/interview-peter-j-tomasi-talks-batman-and-robin-an/1100-150664/

Originally posted by emporerpants
Wait, Digi, just to be clear, are you saying that Lady Thor's feat doesn't count towards her combat potential at this point? Or that you think it shouldn't or that it's irrelevant? I think that's a little silly. Aren't feats what we use usually when talking about who would beat who in a fight?

I mean, of course when Lady Thor beats Thor it will be because of the writer and editors. That is the same for every comic fight. I know that character's often are hyped up and do incredible stuff when they first show up to build up their appeal. (like Rulk). But at this point this feat is really all we have to go on as to who we think wins in a fight based on the only evidence we have.

Was your problem with what I said the fact that I said normal Thor couldn't do what she did?

I'm saying none of what you're supposing I am. I only said it was, at best, premature to say that she's going to win. And equally as short-sighted to claim that she'll win because she has the door feat. By that logic, Thor has hundreds of feats she doesn't, with a strong handful equally as hard to replicate.

More than anything, though, the writers aren't sitting there thinking "well we made her move this door to establish her as stronger than Thor, so that it will make sense when she overpowers him in the next issue." The door thing served a narrative purpose; little else.

Thor could perform the door feat if it served the narrative. He could also fail at the door feat for the same reason. That's much of the logic that dictates ALL top tiers.

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, i guess Damian Wayne is going to be a lot stronger and faster than Batman, with new super powers.

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/interview-peter-j-tomasi-talks-batman-and-robin-an/1100-150664/

Ugh.

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, i guess Damian Wayne is going to be a lot stronger and faster than Batman, with new super powers.

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/interview-peter-j-tomasi-talks-batman-and-robin-an/1100-150664/

😂

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, i guess Damian Wayne is going to be a lot stronger and faster than Batman, with new super powers.

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/interview-peter-j-tomasi-talks-batman-and-robin-an/1100-150664/

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You say this as if it's a bad thing.

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Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I can easily see current Whor turning out to be today's Amora, the Enchantress.
She fits nearly perfectly with what we saw this issue and the last.

What?

It's the shield agent, this is confirmed.

Digi, what I am implying is that they might have given her an uuber feat in order to make her beating Thor seem more legit when it happens. It likely will happen, due to the fact that they want to push the new character. Does that one feat make her better than Thor's collective history? Of course not. But it is still a pretty incredible feat for the character's second appearance in a comic, and although it might just be for narrative purposes, it also might, just might, be to make her win if it happens seem more palatable.

The reason I think she will win is because this is the same comic that had Thor get restrained by giants, and then gave this character an incredible feat. I think we can all see the writing on the wall here as well. Lady Thor will beat normal Thor in order to prove that she's legit and worthy of wielding the hammer.