Character Ownage

Started by One_Angry_Scot5,121 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Can someone explain how Maestro came back to life or is this a past event?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24229107/Secret_Wars_2015-_006-016.jpg.html

Brevoort said in a recent interview that not all comics necessarily are taking place at the same time. So Secret Wars #6 could be before Future Imperfect etc.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/hickman-brevoort-sort-through-the-rubble-of-secret-wars-6-explain-series-expansion

On a side note - why does Apocalypse look permanently depressed.

You mean the wishing well Carver? Perhaps Doom released him. I have one question, how Does Doom not know where everybody is or whats going on half the time? Why does he have to get intel from others? I believe in issue #4 it stated that Doom made up the entirety of Battleworld or it was made of his energies aside from Strange.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
On a side note - why does Apocalypse look permanently depressed.

The whole point behind horsemen = a group of friends to hang out with in your free time.

They are leaving him all the time 🙁 That's the reason why 616 Nur commited a suicide, actually.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
You mean the wishing well Carver? Perhaps Doom released him. I have one question, how Does Doom not know where everybody is or whats going on half the time? Why does he have to get intel from others? I believe in issue #4 it stated that Doom made up the entirety of Battleworld or it was made of his energies aside from Strange.

Doom probably isn't accustomed on how to use power of that magnitude.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
You mean the wishing well Carver? Perhaps Doom released him. I have one question, how Does Doom not know where everybody is or whats going on half the time? Why does he have to get intel from others? I believe in issue #4 it stated that Doom made up the entirety of Battleworld or it was made of his energies aside from Strange.

Doom is not omniscient here so he doesn't know everything that's going on. Molecule Man is his true power source. I believe.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
You mean the wishing well Carver? Perhaps Doom released him. I have one question, how Does Doom not know where everybody is or whats going on half the time? Why does he have to get intel from others? I believe in issue #4 it stated that Doom made up the entirety of Battleworld or it was made of his energies aside from Strange.
Doom is nigh-omnipotent. He created Battleworld from the remnants of various earths/universes, and his power is responsible for holding it all together. However, gaining the power of the Beyonders did not make Doom omniscient--that's why the intel of his servants is still invaluable to him.

With that omnipotency he should have granted himself some primo class telepathy or cosmic awareness.

Yeah, this concept went out the window a long time ago:

Nowadays this is the concept Marvel rolls with:

You shouldnt have to be omniscient to find something on a planet that is made up entirely of your own energy that you stole or channeled. Even the the characters in Battleworld are just constricts of Dooms imagination right? Or thats what I got at first.

Not yet thinking like a god huh? Mental unblockers for Thor. OWAW Odinson.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
You shouldnt have to be omniscient to find something on a planet that is made up entirely of your own energy that you stole or channeled. Even the the characters in Battleworld are just constricts of Dooms imagination right? Or thats what I got at first.

Not yet thinking like a god huh? Mental unblockers for Thor. OWAW Odinson.

No. They're actual, existing characters albeit from different universes/realities Doom gathered the remnants of the Multiverse, including the people, and cobbled Battleworld together. Doom has altered their memories, however.

Originally posted by carver9
Can someone explain how Maestro came back to life or is this a past event?

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24229107/Secret_Wars_2015-_006-016.jpg.html


when did he die? wasnt he just trapped in an eternal dream/illusion?

As I said in my previous post, Doom is simply channeling Molecule Man's power (or rather, the power Owen has stored away from the Beyonders). Doom is a conduit, and being a conduit doesn't trigger omniscience.

Doom is the Surfer to Molecule Man's Shaper of Worlds.

Originally posted by Magnon
Interesting. It seems Molecule Man is the one with all the juice, and Doom is just channeling Owen's power. Much like Surfer was with Shaper of Worlds. This event is really propping up the Cube Beings.

I like how competent the "real" 616 and Ultimate characters are, compared to the "recreated" inhabitants of the Warworld. From a very poor starting position, in a short time:

* the Reeds have managed to incite a massive uprising and also discover the source of Doom's power (with the help of "real" Spideys)
* Thanos has been able to manipulate Annihilation Wave/Ultron collective/Marvel zombies behind his cause and neutralize the Shield (by also turning Grimm against Doom)
* BP/Namor have obtained Siege Perilous and Infinity Gauntlet

The fact that Siege Perilous is still working seems to imply that "The One Above All" survived the multiversal destruction just fine. Not so surprising, I guess.

I also like how, in all that Doom has done, one can see his jealousy and/or hatred towards Reed and his family. Ben and Johnny were punished simply for having stood by Reed. Furthermore, Doom has obviously always wanted what Reed has -- a family -- and so he has made Reed's wife and kids his own. Wonder how many times Doom has taken... advantage of the fact that Sue has been brainwashed into thinking Doom is her husband. At least Ult-Reed seemed to be trolling 616-Reed with these implications.

Also, lol at Valeria's casual dismissal of Reed's tech.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, lol at Valeria's casual dismissal of Reed's tech.
she'd probably be impressed if she knew that he was making those in a cave with limited amounts of technology.

Haha!
Poor Sub-Zero...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

I don't know why they still employ him to be honest. He traces most fo his art.

At least he is consistent 😖hifty:

Originally posted by -K-M-
At least he is consistent 😖hifty:

Can't beat my man Liefeld.