Originally posted by -Pr-The Superman/Wonder Woman issue [and his relationship with Wonder Woman in general] have ruined his character more than James Robinson has, and that's saying something.
Warned.
I'm starting to dislike Wonder Woman's character just because of her behaviour in this relationship. But I know better than to let this paint my image of her [or else, I'd have plenty of reasons to dislike Superman, too]
It's baffling how you'd like Superman in a relationship with Wonder Woman. Maybe you project what you'd like to be, with what is currently shown in comics but, as it is, this relationship is just below Dr Light/Sue Dibny in terms of good portrayals of love and respect between man and woman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂I want to say I told you so but I won't.
You told me that DC's writers would be such absolute ****-ups that they'd ruin the entire thing?
I think we were all half-expecting that tbh.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The Superman/Wonder Woman issue [and his relationship with Wonder Woman in general] have ruined his character more than James Robinson has, and that's saying something.I'm starting to dislike Wonder Woman's character just because of her behaviour in this relationship. But I know better than to let this paint my image of her [or else, I'd have plenty of reasons to dislike Superman, too]
It's baffling how you'd like Superman in a relationship with Wonder Woman. Maybe you project what you'd like to be, with what is currently shown in comics but, as it is, this relationship is just below Dr Light/Sue Dibny in terms of good portrayals of love and respect between man and woman.
I don't like how it is currently. You know better than to think I do/would.
Almost every single writer has handled it horribly, and some of them, I've been completely put off of due to them allowing their own personal politics to hurt their writing.
Originally posted by -Pr-The relationship also has unfortunate external circumstances attached to it - the 'Girl power' is at its peak now (see Star Wars, Hunger Games, Mad Max, Divergent etc.), and DC is really trying to tap into that to get fans for Wonder Woman, who is the DC poster girl for the feminists.
I don't like how it is currently. You know better than to think I do/would.Almost every single writer has handled it horribly, and some of them, I've been completely put off of due to them allowing their own personal politics to hurt their writing.
The demasculinization of Superman is just a stepping stone for that.
Originally posted by -Pr-Johns had her almost tongue **** Steve, before Superman appeared.
Of course. With a competent writer, or with Johns taking more of a stranglehold, it would have been much better imo.
Not even Johns [who, btw, I consider at fault for the shit going on at DC], has the patience for that shit, eventough he's the one who started it.
Originally posted by Philosophía
The relationship also has unfortunate external circumstances attached to it - the 'Girl power' is at its peak now (see Star Wars, Hunger Games, Mad Max, Divergent etc.), and DC is really trying to tap into that to get fans for Wonder Woman, who is the DC poster girl for the feminists.The demasculinization of Superman is just a stepping stone for that.
Oh, I agree.
You would think though, that even DC wouldn't go so far as to make Superman look as bad as they have. I mean, they already massively depowered him (a kind of emasculation in and of itself), but the massive chip on the shoulder of everyone involved is just awful.
And the sad thing is? Better writers have done more with less, and have made BOTH Superman and Wonder Woman look strong in the same book.
Hell, this one, you could have copied and pasted much of Superman Batman, substituted Bruce out for Diana, and it would have been perfectly fine.
