Character Ownage

Started by Philosophía5,121 pages

Originally posted by JayDaDon
As much as we crap on Marvel, the incursion storyline in Avengers/New Avengers was INcredible. I enjoyed that quite a bit more than Dark Reign.
As long as it was focused on that, I agree but other than that, imo, his Fantastic Four run was superior.

Avengers was too many stuff thrown all at once and seemed less focused as a result - harder to really immerse myself in it, eventough the structure of the story itself was impressive, especially compared to like 95% of the other comics out there. I just didn't feel any emotion in it, like it was all a well oiled machine, but just that.

Originally posted by Galan007
FINALLY a suit with forearm utility pockets. 👆

bout time, Marvel. 👆

😂

@phil

I felt there was a TON of emotion at times. It gave those confrontations and things finally said out loud. It really played on the histories and relationships of the characters of the Marvel Universe. Everything Namor said to Panther that started their war was some of the realest and coldest shit I've seen from Marvel in years. Loved Banner and Beast trolling the absolute shit outta Cap and Shield. Not to mention them actually connecting this storyline to both Hickman's Fan4 AND the Ultimates. I guess a ton of emotion wasn't as essential for such a storyline because personal gripes are really small potatoes when all the multiverse is collapsing. I more or less agree though, it had some very emotional moments, but emotion did take a backseat about halfway through. But the way that war between Namor and Tchalla kicked off, I got chills.

Originally posted by JayDaDon
@phil

I felt there was a TON of emotion at times. It gave those confrontations and things finally said out loud. It really played on the histories and relationships of the characters of the Marvel Universe. Everything Namor said to Panther that started their war was some of the realest and coldest shit I've seen from Marvel in years. Loved Banner and Beast trolling the absolute shit outta Cap and Shield. Not to mention them actually connecting this storyline to both Hickman's Fan4 AND the Ultimates. I guess a ton of emotion wasn't as essential for such a storyline because personal gripes are really small potatoes when all the multiverse is collapsing. I more or less agree though, it had some very emotional moments, but emotion did take a backseat about halfway through. But the way that war between Namor and Tchalla kicked off, I got chills.

Namor was one of the better parts of it for sure 👆

Makes his treatment in Squadron Supreme all the more depressing.

Yeah no joke.

I feel everything would feel a lot better reading it all together in chronological order. Like a big volume.

Something that goes on that long loses a lot with the spacing. A big reason why Secret Wars was such a ****ing letdown and ruined everything.

I would like to go back and binge read everything in order though, but that's a pretty big thing to ask of readers too, and myself. Meh, I might buy the ****ing volumes for once.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I feel everything would feel a lot better reading it all together in chronological order. Like a big volume.

Something that goes on that long loses a lot with the spacing. A big reason why Secret Wars was such a ****ing letdown and ruined everything.

I would like to go back and binge read everything in order though, but that's a pretty big thing to ask of readers too, and myself. Meh, I might buy the ****ing volumes for once.

I actually read all of the Fantastic Four and Avengers stuff in like 1-2 weeks, all at once. I highly recommend it, especially Fantastic Four.

Avengers kind of loses itself halfway through, and the ending especially I felt was emotionless and....rushed? If that is possible. The time skips didn't help at all. The payoff with Doom/Dr Strange is great. The actual parts with them dealing with the incursions were awesome. But I felt the Captain America/Iron Man parts of the storylines were...not that great. In fact, I feel the Avengers title itself was detractory from the main storyline. Just New Avengers by itself was very good.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I actually read all of the Fantastic Four and Avengers stuff in like 1-2 weeks, all at once. I highly recommend it, especially Fantastic Four.

Avengers kind of loses itself halfway through, and the ending especially I felt was emotionless and....rushed? If that is possible. The time skips didn't help at all. The payoff with Doom/Dr Strange is great. The actual parts with them dealing with the incursions were awesome. But I felt the Captain America/Iron Man parts of the storylines were...not that great. In fact, I feel the Avengers title itself was detractory from the main storyline. Just New Avengers by itself was very good.

F4 would be a good one.

Yeah, everytime a Cap and Iron Man drama issue came out I was pretty dissapointed. I wasn't a fan of that time jumping arc either. A volume where it purely explores the Rorshach Alabaster mysteries and the multiverse/incursions seems like it would be pretty neat though. Or just New Avengers...

What happened to Thanos, though? Did he ever show up again or what?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
What happened to Thanos, though? Did he ever show up again or what?

Nobody cares about Thanus.

Hulk fans like you and me don't care at all.

Even if it was Scorpion or some other lame, to have them be a major part of the arc and to to take up panel time then to just have them get oneshotted and ignored is a waste of time, though Scorpion running up on Amped Doom would be kinda epic

Originally posted by psycho gundam
What happened to Thanos, though? Did he ever show up again or what?
He'll probably show up from some other writer. Well, you know he will considering gotta get those movie characters in. Plus it makes no sense anyway for him to stay dead.

Hickman wrote him with a general disdain though. From the start to the end something seemed off. That Doom faceoff though was some of the dumbest shit written for any character I can think of in comics, let alone Thanos. Almost poetic that's how he ended him.

Doom raping Thanus was an example of perfect writiing.

Starlin's Thanos is dumb. I hope Starlin won't retcon it into another Thanosi... again.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
What happened to Thanos, though? Did he ever show up again or what?

He is coming back in some way. I read it in solicitations for a new comic but I can't remember which one it was. Sorry I couldn't be of any more help.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He is coming back in some way.

In a skeleton that everybody will piss on, hopefully.

smh

Shake it all you want.

Thanus wasn't a character any true Marvel fan will miss, anyway.

Now that he's dead, he doesn't need to be pissing his pants while thinking about encountering the Hulk.

PS. I hope Hickman will do the same thing to Starlin in RL.

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I don't even know how to feel about this.

Is she cumming or ...?

Poor Logan twisting in his grave.