Character Ownage

Started by DarkSaint855,121 pages

Tbf Mangog was more dangerous than Odin and the Phoenix Force.

So Hulk is basically beyond abstract.

Originally posted by leonidas
wwh didn't treat herc like that and jane did a million timez better against mangog. gaye. they're turning hulk into thanos II with this overpowering sh!t.

They never fought.... WWH and Hercules. Well, I don't consider it a fight.

Shaw:

Originally posted by One Big Mob
And I hope Darkseid mashes Wonder Woman in. I don't like how they already teased Wizardseid and him being younger though. Especially with Darkseid aging via Zeus' power in the story. It implies Wonder Woman rips that power out.
Hopefully it's just a huge plot device
You can bet money on that.

The lasso will rip out Zeus lifeforce.

It's a process of elimination, she can't physically beat him. It's either that, or she somehow weakens him with the bracelets throwing back his own power at him.

Originally posted by Galan007
Shaw:

Holy shit, that version of his power absorption is basically unbeatable.

👆

I just hope it's not an actual fight before the plot device though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Tbf Mangog was more dangerous than Odin and the Phoenix Force.

So Hulk is basically beyond abstract.

If you scale Jane off Mangog, then Hulk is way worse. Only Aaron gives her those feats though surprisingly.
At the very least in the other books though she's as strong as Herc with a magic hammer.

This story probably ends with Hulk kicking the shit out of the Black Order and the "Old" Grandmaster, so Carver can still grow in power from here

Originally posted by One Big Mob
👆

I just hope it's not an actual fight before the plot device though.

Oh, it will be some generic 'punches that draw blood' at the beginning [I won't be surprised if this will be the big splash first page for next issue, her punching him away] until he beats her down on the ground hard, gives a big villain talk "you didn't think you had a chance against me, did you?" while she stands there hopeless, and then she wraps him in the lasso and does the trick.

Hulk is the A1 superhero team manhandler.

It's the nature of story telling, right? Lobo does crazy stuff, but in team books less so. Flash outruns Death, then fails in the JLA (unless you're Morrison writing both books). Jane fights the Phoenix, whilst in the Avengers fails to stop a meteor (I think it was even during the same month). Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is...well, unbeatable, but is written more 'normally' in US Avengers.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's the nature of story telling, right? Lobo does crazy stuff, but in team books less so. Flash outruns Death, then fails in the JLA (unless you're Morrison writing both books). Jane fights the Phoenix, whilst in the Avengers fails to stop a meteor (I think it was even during the same month). Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is...well, unbeatable, but is written more 'normally' in US Avengers.
And then there's Batman 👆

im having trouble figuring out why hulk is allowing himself to be controlled though? he was never so uncaring. feats aside i dont care for this deviation from his character

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's the nature of story telling, right? Lobo does crazy stuff, but in team books less so. Flash outruns Death, then fails in the JLA (unless you're Morrison writing both books). Jane fights the Phoenix, whilst in the Avengers fails to stop a meteor (I think it was even during the same month). Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is...well, unbeatable, but is written more 'normally' in US Avengers.

How powerful is Death Sentry?

Originally posted by Galan007
Shaw:

That unbreakable shield guys. Totally unbreakable.

It always shocks me by how much of a gap carver manages to miss the point.

He's not just sidestepping it. He's playing tennis on rollerskates holding a baseball bat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That unbreakable shield guys. Totally unbreakable.
Shaw absorbed it.

Originally posted by Philosophía
And then there's Batman 👆

Well yeah lol. For every action and all that....

It's how things are. Let's say there's a general level - 50 - for all team members to be useful.

Batman is a 5 in his book. Lobo is a 100.

In the JLA book? They'll be near 50 in power. Batman (or Black Canary or any other street) can hang with people like Lobo, who once pulled a star out of the sky.

Flash, who casually runs through time mid sentence and returns the second he left, is on the same team as Aquaman. Who is also on the same team as Superman and WW.

Which is why battle feats alone can't work. Cheese feats help too. Batman is never replicating Heaven's Ladder, or pulling the Earth/Moon. But he can spar with WW.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's the nature of story telling, right? Lobo does crazy stuff, but in team books less so. Flash outruns Death, then fails in the JLA (unless you're Morrison writing both books). Jane fights the Phoenix, whilst in the Avengers fails to stop a meteor (I think it was even during the same month). Unbeatable Squirrel Girl is...well, unbeatable, but is written more 'normally' in US Avengers.
True, but even Male Thor didn't have such a strong contrast between showings besides when Bendis was on deck. Real Jane Thor is portrayed as entirely average in every book but Aaron's. Even Blackheart beat her iirc.

With the current climate of SJWs, it's funny how Aaron took it above and beyond.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Oh, it will be some generic 'punches that draw blood' at the beginning [I won't be surprised if this will be the big splash first page for next issue, her punching him away] until he beats her down on the ground hard, gives a big villain talk "you didn't think you had a chance against me, did you?" while she stands there hopeless, and then she wraps him in the lasso and does the trick.
This is the worst of how I want it to happen, and how I see it going down personally. The best would be him leveling her with a shot like Herc did to WWH only she stays down, someone distracts him and she pulls some lasso shenanigans.

I don't want Carver's version though.

Now I’m really curious how immortal hulk and Sasquatch are going to partner and work together.

Originally posted by carver9
Now THIS is a trans tier ft.

LIES!!

Originally posted by -K-M-
Now I’m really curious how immortal hulk and Sasquatch are going to partner and work together.

Hulk would obviously have to be written down, incredibly low, for Sasquatch to stay relevant.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Now I’m really curious how immortal hulk and Sasquatch are going to partner and work together.
Like Batman and Robin.

And I don't even mean Nightwing, I mean Stephanie, at best.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
This is the worst of how I want it to happen, and how I see it going down personally. The best would be him leveling her with a shot like Herc did to WWH only she stays down, someone distracts him and she pulls some lasso shenanigans.

I don't want Carver's version though.

This has been hyped up too much for her not to do extraordinarily well. Even the solicit bring up Wonder Woman saying she can take on Darkseid in a 1v1 fight, and whether she can back that up.

They won't mess that up by having, I dunno, Jason helping her.

But imagine her winning against Darkseid straight up, only for Darkseid to go for the bi tch move and attack her brother...That would ruin him.