He is actually more powerful then I though. The White Light can't beat him. HE regenerates instantly, and he can command you to do some weird thing. HE basically made Scarecrow go nuts just by telling one sentence. Same with Hal. He just grabbed him and Hal was near death.
Though by GL 50
Parallax>Spectre 😂
Originally posted by xJLxKing
He is actually more powerful then I though. The White Light can't beat him. HE regenerates instantly, and he can command you to do some weird thing. HE basically made Scarecrow go nuts just by telling one sentence. Same with Hal. He just grabbed him and Hal was near death.Though by GL 50
Parallax>Spectre 😂
Parallax was also implied to be powerful enough to threaten Spectre in Rebirth, too.
I think the crux of the matter is when you boil down to it, Parallax is the meta-physical manifestation of fear in the universe. By definition alone, he should at least some threat of a threat to Spectre, especially a hostless one.
I also think the Guardians being > Spectre makes sense. If you're counting them all as a whole vs. the "standard" Spectre. Of course, when he's fully backed, that's another thing entirely.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Parallax was also implied to be powerful enough to threaten Spectre in Rebirth, too.I think the crux of the matter is when you boil down to it, Parallax is the meta-physical manifestation of fear in the universe. By definition alone, he should at least some threat of a threat to Spectre, especially a hostless one.
I also think the Guardians being > Spectre makes sense. If you're counting them all as a whole vs. the "standard" Spectre. Of course, when he's fully backed, that's another thing entirely.
As for Parallax, he is fear incarnated, but Spectre is god's wrath. There is no contest there. Spectre should win, host-less or not.
I don't believe the guardians are close to Spectre's power. The 2 guardians claimed to be stronger then Spectre. That's not acceptable.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually, they implied that Spectre was SCARED. HOW THE F&&^ IS THE WRATH OF GOD SCARED?As for Parallax, he is fear incarnated, but Spectre is god's wrath. There is no contest there. Spectre should win, host-less or not.
I don't believe the guardians are close to Spectre's power. The 2 guardians claimed to be stronger then Spectre. That's not acceptable.
Hal was the one who implied it. And it's not the first time Spectre has shown to be scared. Considering that Parallax would have been around about as long as Spectre has (as the yellow spectrum of fear was created as soon as sentient life felt fear), it's not out of the question for Spectre to be intimidated by him, especially when Parallax succeeded in supressing him when the two of them were both using Hal as a host.
And Ganthet said that the power of the Guardians eclipse that of the Spectre (as in all of them) during Rebirth. Spectre's power level varies for a lot of his showings, anyway, so that's not a huge leap of faith. Both Ganthet's and Hal's statements aren't law, as both of them have shown to be wrong before. Besides, Atrocitus called Ganthet out anyway.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankThat's Johns fault.
Hal was the one who implied it. And it's not the first time Spectre has shown to be scared. Considering that Parallax would have been around about as long as Spectre has (as the yellow spectrum of fear was created as soon as sentient life felt fear), it's not out of the question for Spectre to be intimidated by him, especially when Parallax succeeded in supressing him when the two of them were both using Hal as a host.
It seems as if John wanted that to be like a direct statementAnd Ganthet said that the power of the Guardians eclipse that of the Spectre (as in all of them) during Rebirth. Spectre's power level varies for a lot of his showings, anyway, so that's not a huge leap of faith. Both Ganthet's and Hal's statements aren't law, as both of them have shown to be wrong before. Besides, Atrocitus called Ganthet out anyway.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's Johns fault. It seems as if John wanted that to be like a direct statement
And?
Johns wasn't the first and won't be the last person to revamp GL or retcon something to make it fit with his vision.
Not all of Spectre's showings can be of universal or multiversal shaking proportions. The character doesn't work that way. He could use just enough power to kill a two-bit murderer one story, use enough power to embark on a campaign to rid the world of magic in another, or undo the damage done to the space/time continuum in another. He's as powerful as Presence wants him to be at any given moment.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He's as powerful as Presence wants him to be at any given moment.
True, but fearing Parallax is an entirely different matter, it has to do with his character. Spectre knows the Presence having been an archangel at his beginning he should not fear a cosmic boogey man unless said boogey man/entity/object can affect his soul e.g. like the spear of destiny and anti-life.
It is understandable that Spectre was scared of the ALE and the Spear of destiny because those 2 things could alter his very soul, what's Parallax going to do to him except try to nuke his body?
Originally posted by Allankles
True, but fearing Parallax is an entirely different matter, it has to do with his character. Spectre knows the Presence having been an archangel at his beginning he should not fear a cosmic boogey man unless said boogey man/entity/object can affect his soul e.g. like the spear of destiny and anti-life.It is understandable that Spectre was scared of the ALE and the Spear of destiny because those 2 things could alter his very soul, what's Parallax going to do to him except try to nuke his body?
Parallax almost succeeded in bending Spectre's will to its own. The fact that he was able to suppress Spectre enough to prove a threat to his being says a lot.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
By taking the host, not spectre
Still, if both beings where inhabitanting the same host body, it says a lot about Parallax that he was able to lie dormant for years and suppress Spectre to the point where Spectre had to boot both himself and Parallax out in order to be free of his corruption.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Spectre wasn't afraid of the ALE, or the spear.
Interpreting Radiant's take on the Spear the spectre would certainly be apprehensive of the Spear since in magical lore it's supposed to be the one thing that can control him. Count on John to screw with this in BN.
Anyway Radiant was legitimately wary of these things since they could alter her's and Spectre's soul or render them powerless.
Parallax is a guy mortals like Hal and Sinestro are willing to meld with (I know it was a tough situation, but still), why should Spectre be afraid of such a being? All Parallax will do is try to destroy Spectre's body.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Still, if both beings where inhabitanting the same host body, it says a lot about Parallax that he was able to lie dormant for years and suppress Spectre to the point where Spectre had to boot both himself and Parallax out in order to be free of his corruption.
But he was only being corrupted because he was in a human host. Parallax doesn't mean a thing to Spectre's soul otherwise.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's not the whole fight.
All of the corps try to put down the Spectre and they fail.
And Atrocitus corrects the pompus Guardians (the ones that never made a mistake before, right???) by saying that indeed the Spectre's power eclipses theirs.
The most baffling thing, a sign that Johns cannot stop wanking his favorite characters is that in a story written by him, in GL Rebirth #4 the Spectre leaves, not because his afraid but because the Presence calls him in order to bind with Crispsu Allen. It's written by the same writer.
Of course Hal doesn't know that and thus he says the cr@p he says.
And if the cover for GL #51 is any indication it'll take all the corps+Guardians+Parallax to take down the Spectre.
Originally posted by comicfan11
That's not the whole fight.
All of the corps try to put down the Spectre and they fail.
And Atrocitus corrects the pompus Guardians (the ones that never made a mistake before, right???) by saying that indeed the Spectre's power eclipses theirs.The most baffling thing, a sign that Johns cannot stop wanking his favorite characters is that in a story written by him, in GL Rebirth #4 the Spectre leaves, not because his afraid but because the Presence calls him in order to bind with Crispsu Allen. It's written by the same writer.
Of course Hal doesn't know that and thus he says the cr@p he says.
And if the cover for GL #51 is any indication it'll take all the corps+Guardians+Parallax to take down the Spectre.
Not that I disagree with most of what you say, but Atrocitus' opinion can't really be trusted here either - he absolutely hates the Guardians. And they won't just be fighting Spectre in #51, but a force powerful enough to possess and imprison him.
