Character Ownage

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're ignoring two things, first that Hulk is too slow and one dimensional to realistically beat some of the HH characters he's beaten and second that in said occasion Darkseid was close to powerless, its the same time he fell down the stairs, it was like he was a Cancer patient at that time.

You are ignoring some things, Hulk has a degree of speed and you are also ignoring the CIS rule and almost every high herald here would fall to hulk due to that rule.

Me ignoring on panel evidence, Wolverine>Darkseid since batman kicked that face in.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer and Hulk has fought plenty of times and I'm not talking about the WWH version (even though hulk was weakened also). I'm talking about the fight where he takes on Surfer and Namor after Surfer and Strange try to surround him in a forcefield and he breaks free.

Drax, Hulk whipped that ass.

Genis, I cant believe you dont know what fight I'm talking about when Hulk had him under the water choking the life from him.

Let me also add that he beat the destroyer, fing fang foom.

He fought a team that consist of Ironman, namor, Hercules, and Wonderman.

Jack of Hearts

When

I don`t remember that fight ending, but I also haven`t looked at it since about two years, so don`t really care tbh.

Via plot device did he defeat Destroyer. He closed his visor... not exactly something to brag about.
Fin Fang Foom isn`t something to brag about either

He fought a team... exactly, he didn`t win.

Not exactly the toughest guy to bring up when you`re trying to make a point of him beating HH...

Originally posted by Blanket
Oh, so when he didn`t beat Surfer then

When

I don`t remember that fight ending, but I also haven`t looked at it since about two years, so don`t really care tbh.

Via plot device did he defeat Destroyer. He closed his visor... not exactly something to brag about.
Fin Fang Foom isn`t something to brag about either

He fought a team... exactly, he didn`t win.

Not exactly the toughest guy to bring up when you`re trying to make a point of him beating HH...

Captain Marvell

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7055/marvell1a4ov.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7484/marvell1b0mh.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/8884/marvell1c5gg.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/2977/marvell1d7dl.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7484/marvell1e8pd.jpg

Genis

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1493/genis1c4zr.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6058/genis1e0ev.jpg

We see what good Genis speed blitz did him.

Originally posted by carver9
Captain Marvell

http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7055/marvell1a4ov.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7484/marvell1b0mh.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/8884/marvell1c5gg.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/2977/marvell1d7dl.jpg
http://img128.exs.cx/img128/7484/marvell1e8pd.jpg

Genis

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/1493/genis1c4zr.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6085/genis1d2mx.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6058/genis1e0ev.jpg

We see what good Genis speed blitz did him.

So... Hulk didn`t beat his ass

Originally posted by Blanket
That`s not Genis, and I`m well acquainted with that fight. That`s also Mar-Vell before an upgrade as well...

So... Hulk didn`t beat his ass

Originally posted by Galan007
Your typing style angers me.

Originally posted by Blanket
That`s not Genis, and I`m well acquainted with that fight. That`s also Mar-Vell before an upgrade as well...

So... Hulk didn`t beat his ass

Thats not the point, the point is he has fought people with versatility and power his entire career and did just fine.

How did you get into this argument anyway?

Originally posted by carver9
Thats not the point, the point is he has fought people with versatility and power his entire career and did just fine.

How did you get into this argument anyway?

Originally posted by carver9
HHHMMM, so it PIS that Hulk has given Thor, Genis Vell, Gladiator, Surfer, Hyperion, Beta Ray Bill, Drax (with the power gem), along with numerous of others a beating.

You made a broad comment that deeply offended me on a personal level

Originally posted by Blanket
And the point has changed apparently

You made a broad comment that deeply offended me on a personal level

LOL, well, I didnt try to offend you but to call it PIS losing to the Hulk because you are a high herald is stupid since again, he has faced high heralds his entire career.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, well, I didnt try to offend you but to call it PIS losing to the Hulk because you are a high herald is stupid since again, he has faced high heralds his entire career.

Originally posted by Blanket
Maybe, but a lot of them have explanations, and flat out just didn`t happen, so there`s that.

What explaination did Thor have or Gladiator, or Black Bolt, along with Mar-vell?

Originally posted by carver9
What explaination did Thor have or Gladiator, or Black Bolt, along with Mar-vell?

Gladiator was affected by radiation

Black Bolt hasn`t lost to Hulk... and Skrull Bolt did.

Mar-Vell didn`t have his final upgrade, and isn`t a high herald or close to it.

Originally posted by Blanket
Thor has only lost twice against him, once when he didn`t have a hammer, and once when Hulk used his own hammer against him. It`s not like it`s overwhelming for Hulk to beat Thor either... it can happen, don`t get me wrong.

Gladiator was affected by radiation

Black Bolt hasn`t lost to Hulk... and Skrull Bolt did.

Mar-Vell didn`t have his final upgrade, and isn`t a high herald or close to it.

Hulk was holding his own with Gladiator before the radiation.

I know it was a skrull but that same skrull ripped through time and space with its scream during an experiment with reed. That skrull was just as powerful.

Mar-vell is underrated.

He also defeated Hyperion.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk was holding his own with Gladiator before the radiation.

I know it was a skrull but that same skrull ripped through time and space with its scream during an experiment with reed. That skrull was just as powerful.

Mar-vell is underrated.

He also defeated Hyperion.

Was it the Skrull who did that, I don`t think so, but you probably know.

Ya, explain that to someone who has read every issue he`s appeared in... good job carver.

I never made an issue about that... but since you want to bring it up... he defeated him because he clapped his ears, and Hyperion`s super hearing screwed him up. It wasn`t because he was more powerful or anything.

Originally posted by Blanket
But he didn`t beat him until then, no

Was it the Skrull who did that, I don`t think so, but you probably know.

Ya, explain that to someone who has read every issue he`s appeared in... good job carver.

I never made an issue about that... but since you want to bring it up... he defeated him because he clapped his ears, and Hyperion`s super hearing screwed him up. It wasn`t because he was more powerful or anything.

I know he didnt beat him until then but he held his own.

Yes, it was a skrull. This happened a couple of issues before WWH.

Never said that you didnt read every issue but I think he is underrated.

He was holding his own yet again and he thunderclapped his ears. I dont see anything wrong with that. Its a defeat.

Since Hulk is so weak, why cant people just overwhelm him and just beat the hell out of him?

Originally posted by carver9
I know he didnt beat him until then but he held his own.

Yes, it was a skrull. This happened a couple of issues before WWH.

Never said that you didnt read every issue but I think he is underrated.

He was holding his own yet again and he thunderclapped his ears. I dont see anything wrong with that. Its a defeat.

Since Hulk is so weak, why cant people just overwhelm him and just beat the hell out of him?

I`m still not seeing why it was a Skrull... not that it matters much, because it was still Skrull Bolt, and therefore not BB.

Underrated has nothing to do with him not being close to HH.

Again, it was pis that caused this. It wasn`t because he was powerful enough to beat him down, it was because Hype has super hearing. I`m not saying it wasn`t a defeat. But it`s also not something relevant to him beating `HH`, also because Hype isn`t, but whatev.

What the **** are you talking about
No one said Hulk was weak, but you asked for circumstances involving defeats, and the `poor Hulk` argument is pretty dull.

Originally posted by Blanket
Holding his own doesn`t equate into beating his ass under normal circumstances. Fact is, he beat him because of pis. Which was your first argument that has proven... faulty so far.

I`m still not seeing why it was a Skrull... not that it matters much, because it was still Skrull Bolt, and therefore not BB.

Underrated has nothing to do with him not being close to HH.

Again, it was pis that caused this. It wasn`t because he was powerful enough to beat him down, it was because Hype has super hearing. I`m not saying it wasn`t a defeat. But it`s also not something relevant to him beating `HH`, also because Hype isn`t, but whatev.

What the **** are you talking about
No one said Hulk was weak, but you asked for circumstances involving defeats, and the `poor Hulk` argument is pretty dull.

So whats your argument with WWH vs Zom/Strange because the rest of your argument is MOOT?

Originally posted by carver9
So whats your argument with WWH vs Zom/Strange because the rest of your argument is MOOT?

And claiming arguments are MOOT is hilarious when you have no defense.

Either way, Zom Strange got distracted and then beat down. very powerful, not very durable. Especially when the same Zom piece got one shotted by Archangle inside the super Hulkbuster armor.

Originally posted by carver9
You are ignoring some things, Hulk has a degree of speed and you are also ignoring the CIS rule and almost every high herald here would fall to hulk due to that rule.

Me ignoring on panel evidence, Wolverine>Darkseid since batman kicked that face in.