Character Ownage

Started by Starscream M5,121 pages

nice scan...proves my point exactly.

being CL100 does not mean you have strong pierce durability.

Originally posted by Trackz
Skaar took him out pretty easily, as did ares and red hulk. In a fight the same thing would probably happen, Colossus manhandled Hellverine before he powered up.

Skaar jumped him while he was talking to Banner, far from legit. Ares was extremely low showing and even then he was never KOed and had his claws in. Red hulk? You do realise wolverine was whooping the shit out of Red Hulk right?

I not sure what more pathetic, your sad attempt at trying to lowball wolverine or the fact you fail misserabily at it. Might wanna educate your self on the the fight inquestion before posting them as easy wins for people when you clearly neevr read them.

Originally posted by King Castle

although i think modern Thanos might proof more difficult then in the past.

Yes, he used his weight and momentum to cut him good but he can't slice into him like butter. That's an utter and complete lie.

Originally posted by Starscream M
none of those have higher pierce resistance than colossus

logan has cut through thanos like butter and he could do the same to those other 3 if he could land a strike


yes they don. your just an ignorant.

He also did the same thing to colossus, as well as the narrative saying the same thing, as does colossus and both wolverine acknowledged this as well. But keep on pretending like your arguements are legit. Honstely is this for real? this is even pathetic for you. let battle zone this week. This nonses is getting pretty absurd and you need to understand just how ignorant you really are.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Skaar jumped him while he was talking to Banner, far from legit. Ares was extremely low showing and even then he was never KOed and had his claws in. Red hulk? You do realise wolverine was whooping the shit out of Red Hulk right?

I not sure what more pathetic, your sad attempt at trying to lowball wolverine or the fact you fail misserabily at it. Might wanna educate your self on the the fight inquestion before posting them as easy wins for people when you clearly neevr read them.

which of those showings low balled him, they were all legit showings. Red Hulk BFR'd him, which would be a win in a forum fight. Skaar BFR'd him. Ares floored him.

A strong enough character, especially one of Colossus' immense strength is capable of easily BFR's logan, which is what we saw. We also saw that Wolverine can't cut Colossus unless he hits him dead on. Which wouldn't happen, I mean hellverine had a clear strength advantage since he had Colossus in a headlock and was stabbing him.

An argument could be made that Wolverine could beat colossus but this issue doesn't really support that notion.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan

He also did the same thing to colossus,

wow...so now you're resorting to lying? 😱

wolverine NEVER EVER stuck his claws deep into colossus' chest

not even FRIGGIN close

your intellectual dishonesty disguests me... its one thing to have an opinion...but to LIE about something to support your point is ridiculous

although sadly, I'm not surprised you'd go so low 😬

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wolverine could still cut them it was just difficult to do so and ineffective so he changed tactics.

Different writers handled this you act like comics all gel together to make sense. You should know better by now.

This is just 2 examples but there is more examples of where wolverine lack the strength to cut through other things he shouldn't be able to cut colossus so easily compareed to hulk or thor and others when more then one writer lean towards a direction you go with it. PLUS the fact this was not a standard wolverine fighting colossus to begin with

Originally posted by DarkOdin
This is just 2 examples but there is more examples of where wolverine lack the strength to cut through other things he shouldn't be able to cut colossus so easily compareed to hulk or thor and others when more then one writer lean towards a direction you go with it. PLUS the fact this was not a standard wolverine fighting colossus to begin with
You can't ignore showings you don't like and rule them out. Wolverine has cut superior characters than colossus anyways.

Originally posted by Trackz
Skaar took him out pretty easily, as did ares and red hulk. In a fight the same thing would probably happen, Colossus manhandled Hellverine before he powered up.

Skaar... not fighting back.
Ares.... Cheap shot twice and it did nothing.
Red Hulk.... Was actually losing until Red Shulk showed up....

😐

EPIC FAAAAAILLLLL!

Originally posted by Trackz
which of those showings low balled him, they were all legit showings. Red Hulk BFR'd him, which would be a win in a forum fight. Skaar BFR'd him. Ares floored him.

A strong enough character, especially one of Colossus' immense strength is capable of easily BFR's logan, which is what we saw. We also saw that Wolverine can't cut Colossus unless he hits him dead on. Which wouldn't happen, I mean hellverine had a clear strength advantage since he had Colossus in a headlock and was stabbing him.

An argument could be made that Wolverine could beat colossus but this issue doesn't really support that notion.

BFR only matters if the character can't get back to the fight of their own volition...

Red Hulk.. didn't fall into that category.
Skaar.. eh... kinda circumstantial.

Ares... He got right back up... so what?

Colossus being doubled over and gripping his insides is not indicative of him trying to struggle out of Hellverine's grip.
There's no indication of strength increase...

We already knew glancing blows are not the same as a straight shot in concerns to Wolverine's claws.. if you think Wolverine can't land a straight shot... EI a jab, then you either have a SEVERELY limited education of fighting or an even more severely limited education of Wolverine....

OR you're just lowballing him like crazy which is normal for you.

Originally posted by jinzin
Skaar... not fighting back.
Ares.... Cheap shot twice and it did nothing.
Red Hulk.... Was actually losing until Red Shulk showed up....

😐

EPIC FAAAAAILLLLL!

...My point being people of similar strength can BFR/put him down. All of those listed above did one of the two. Therefore it's conceivable that Colossus could win the fight after BFRing Wolverine, and against that if this had been a regular Wolverine the fight would've been over after Colossus threw him off-panel.

Originally posted by Trackz
which of those showings low balled him, they were all legit showings. Red Hulk BFR'd him, which would be a win in a forum fight. Skaar BFR'd him. Ares floored him.

Ares one for starter. You dont get much more low balled then that. Do I really need to post scans of the numerous 100 tonner who have blasted him several times and and fail to achieve sucha result. Trying to pretend that how wolverine potrayed the majority of the time is simply sad.

Wolverine came back and whooped on Hulk again to the point he needed saving, great example there champ. You aslo mention that Wolverine stabbed him number of times and blinded him before Rulk could get his hands on him. yea thanks as usual you complete leave out the context.

Again context, Wolverine never fought back against Skaar, but please just keep leaving out context, simply becuase it fits you arguement.

yea Ares flooring wolverine in one punch is consistent with the majority of his showsing? no it not, but please keep up this sad attempt to low ball him and bring up several even with out givng any context. Nice notice you also failed to mention wolverine had his claws in the entire time and did not even attempt a slash are Ares if not mistaken.

Originally posted by Trackz
strong enough character, especially one of Colossus' immense strength is capable of easily BFR's logan,

You wanna play the BFR card? Whats stoping wolverine from cutting off his arms, legs ect? He does tactic like this far more often then colossus attempts to BFR.

Originally posted by Trackz
which of those showings low balled him, they were all legit showings. Red Hulk BFR'd him, which would be a win in a forum fight. Skaar BFR'd him. Ares floored him.

Ares one for starter. You dont get much more low balled then that. Do I really need to post scans of the numerous 100 tonner who have blasted him several times and and fail to achieve sucha result. Trying to pretend that how wolverine potrayed the majority of the time is simply sad.

Wolverine came back and whooped on Hulk again to the point he needed saving, great example there champ. You aslo mention that Wolverine stabbed him number of times and blinded him before Rulk could get his hands on him. yea thanks as usual you complete leave out the context.

Again context, Wolverine never fought back against Skaar, but please just keep leaving out context, simply becuase it fits you arguement.

yea Ares flooring wolverine in one punch is consistent with the majority of his showsing? no it not, but please keep up this sad attempt to low ball him and bring up several even with out givng any context. Nice notice you also failed to mention wolverine had his claws in the entire time and did not even attempt a slash are Ares if not mistaken.

Originally posted by Trackz
what we saw. We also saw that Wolverine can't cut Colossus unless he hits him dead on. Which wouldn't happen, I mean hellverine had a clear strength advantage since he had Colossus in a headlock and was stabbing him.

An argument could be made that Wolverine could beat colossus but this issue doesn't really support that notion.

Dude he cut colossus numerous times in the fight. But of course you bring up the single glancing shot and pretend it the norm. honestly and have the nerve to sit there and try and pretrend your not lowing balling him..pathetic.

No he dident, honestly man context. Wolverine did not put him in a headlock. He had wounded Colossus greatly and grabbed him to get a lethal shot in which he did, but Colossus was already out of the fight, you can even see his hand limp and not even in attempt to stop wolverine.

Really and you came to this conclusion how?

Originally posted by jinzin
BFR only matters if the character can't get back to the fight of their own volition...

Red Hulk.. didn't fall into that category.
Skaar.. eh... kinda circumstantial.

Ares... He got right back up... so what?

Colossus being doubled over and gripping his insides is not indicative of him trying to struggle out of Hellverine's grip.
There's no indication of strength increase...

We already knew glancing blows are not the same as a straight shot in concerns to Wolverine's claws.. if you think Wolverine can't land a straight shot... EI a jab, then you either have a SEVERELY limited education of fighting or an even more severely limited education of Wolverine....

OR you're just lowballing him like crazy which is normal for you.

In a forum fight a taxi wouldn't be available to Wolverine.

It seems illogical that Colossus would be doing absolutely nothing to defend himself.

Wolverine threw a straight on slash at Colossus who didn't try to move and it slid right off him.

My point still stands that the fight would've been over after Colossus BFR'd him in the first few panels if it had been normal Wolverine.

I never stated who would win the majority since you know this isn't a vs. topic. I was commenting on the issue at hand. Maybe you should chill out before throwing accusations and such.

I've never lowballed Wolverine.

Brucie and Dum Dum, take this debate to a proper thread and stop spamming this one up.

Originally posted by Starscream M
wow...so now you're resorting to lying? 😱

wolverine NEVER EVER stuck his claws deep into colossus' chest

not even FRIGGIN close

your intellectual dishonesty disguests me... its one thing to have an opinion...but to LIE about something to support your point is ridiculous

although sadly, I'm not surprised you'd go so low 😬


**** you dont you ever ****ing call me a lier you little ****in *****. Fuch battle zone me you pussy. You think your big man common lets do it. Of course you wont becuase you the biggets ***** ive ever met.

GO **** YOU SELF YOUR SELF>

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Ares one for starter. You dont get much more low balled then that. Do I really need to post scans of the numerous 100 tonner who have blasted him several times and and fail to achieve sucha result. Trying to pretend that how wolverine potrayed the majority of the time is simply sad.

Wolverine came back and whooped on Hulk again to the point he needed saving, great example there champ. You aslo mention that Wolverine stabbed him number of times and blinded him before Rulk could get his hands on him. yea thanks as usual you complete leave out the context.

Again context, Wolverine never fought back against Skaar, but please just keep leaving out context, simply becuase it fits you arguement.

yea Ares flooring wolverine in one punch is consistent with the majority of his showsing? no it not, but please keep up this sad attempt to low ball him and bring up several even with out givng any context. Nice notice you also failed to mention wolverine had his claws in the entire time and did not even attempt a slash are Ares if not mistaken.

You wanna play the BFR card? Whats stoping wolverine from cutting off his arms, legs ect? He does tactic like this far more often then colossus attempts to BFR.

Ares one for starter. You dont get much more low balled then that. Do I really need to post scans of the numerous 100 tonner who have blasted him several times and and fail to achieve sucha result. Trying to pretend that how wolverine potrayed the majority of the time is simply sad.

Wolverine came back and whooped on Hulk again to the point he needed saving, great example there champ. You aslo mention that Wolverine stabbed him number of times and blinded him before Rulk could get his hands on him. yea thanks as usual you complete leave out the context.

Again context, Wolverine never fought back against Skaar, but please just keep leaving out context, simply becuase it fits you arguement.

yea Ares flooring wolverine in one punch is consistent with the majority of his showsing? no it not, but please keep up this sad attempt to low ball him and bring up several even with out givng any context. Nice notice you also failed to mention wolverine had his claws in the entire time and did not even attempt a slash are Ares if not mistaken.

Dude he cut colossus numerous times in the fight. But of course you bring up the single glancing shot and pretend it the norm. honestly and have the nerve to sit there and try and pretrend your not lowing balling him..pathetic.

No he dident, honestly man context. Wolverine did not put him in a headlock. He had wounded Colossus greatly and grabbed him to get a lethal shot in which he did, but Colossus was already out of the fight, you can even see his hand limp and not even in attempt to stop wolverine.

Really and you came to this conclusion how?

Ok this is silly, you're misrepresenting my points and the whole thread is being derailed.

Most of your post isn't in response to my overall post and you're responding to what you wrongly think I meant.

I haven't stated who I would think I'd win in a fight or what would happen the majority of times. Again I stated if it had been normal Wolverien the fight would've been over after he had been BFR'd. That's the main point I made which you ignored and then proceeded to start a debate about who would win in a fight which I never had an opinion about in the first place.

Originally posted by Badabing
Brucie and Dum Dum, take this debate to a proper thread and stop spamming this one up.

dont worry im done forever with that ****ing punk, only time I plan to ever acknowledge him, is if he actualy grows a pair in versus me in the battle zone.

This will be closed until I speak to other mods on who gets warned/banned. And there are several of you deserving.

Originally posted by Trackz
In a forum fight a taxi wouldn't be available to Wolverine.

It seems illogical that Colossus would be doing absolutely nothing to defend himself.

Wolverine threw a straight on slash at Colossus who didn't try to move and it slid right off him.

My point still stands that the fight would've been over after Colossus BFR'd him in the first few panels if it had been normal Wolverine.

I never stated who would win the majority since you know this isn't a vs. topic. I was commenting on the issue at hand. Maybe you should chill out before throwing accusations and such.

I've never lowballed Wolverine.

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