KING Kong vs. SPIDERman

Started by SpyCspider4 pages

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A T-rex weighs about 5~7 tons--about the weight of an African Bull elephant and is about 40 feet long, 18 feet high...

King Kong in the original classic 1933 was about 50 feet tall on 2 legs...this new Kong 2005 is about 25 feet on four I think. And the new Kong beat 3 T-rexes while the original had a hard time with one.

Godzilla is 164 feet in the 1954 original classic and weighs 22,000 tons. He's around that height as well for the 1970s campy series and even higher in the new 2000 series. THAT'S MORE THAN 3 TIMES the height of Kong. You tell me how a movie managed to either shrink Godzilla down to Kong's size or up Kong's size to that of the big lizard. Bogus.

Spidey against 2005 King Kong....Kong loses after a tiring battle.
Spidey against classic King Kong...a bit stronger, but Kong still loses.
Spidey against King Kong that fought Godzilla to a stalemate.....Kong probably wins.

oh...and just to clarify, Kong didnt' lose to Godzilla or vice versa in that cheesy movie.

Kong leaaves and you hear Godzilla roar in the distance. Some other kaiju fan please verify this.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
He keeps his distance away from Kong on tall buildings. He webs him from a far and also throws stuff at him from cars to what ever sharp objects on top of a building aiming for his eye blinding him...then trips him with web and stabs him with some pole in his neck. Kong can not hit spidey because of spider sense, agilty and the fact that he is wayyyy out of reach. Spidey wins 7/10
But loses to Wolverine?

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But loses to Wolverine?

I see it as this analogy. A mosquito you can swat and it'll die right? But how many times have you b*tched cuz you can't get that damn mosquito? Anyways, the mosquito bites you, transmits malaria, and u're dead.

K, now put the mosquito and let it fight a dragonfly. Much more similar-sized opponents. 9 out of 10 times, the mosquito becomes dinner.

Or a bee stings you and you die but the bee loses to a similar-sized spider.

Same with Spidey and Wolverine. They're both agile and both awesome fighters. Spidey can lose to Wolverine and he can also beat Wolverine.

With Kong, I see a smart human versus a huge animal. If regular humans can take Kong out with gas bombs or bottles of phenol, I'm sure Spidey can doge fast enough to wear Kong out sooner or later. He packs the proportionate strength of a spider and that's gonna hurt Kong no matter what.

Originally posted by SpyCspider
I see it as this analogy. A mosquito you can swat and it'll die right? But how many times have you b*tched cuz you can't get that damn mosquito? Anyways, the mosquito bites you, transmits malaria, and u're dead.

K, now put the mosquito and let it fight a dragonfly. Much more similar-sized opponents. 9 out of 10 times, the mosquito becomes dinner.

Or a bee stings you and you die but the bee loses to a similar-sized spider.

Same with Spidey and Wolverine. They're both agile and both awesome fighters. Spidey can lose to Wolverine and he can also beat Wolverine.

With Kong, I see a smart human versus a huge animal. If regular humans can take Kong out with gas bombs or bottles of phenol, I'm sure Spidey can doge fast enough to wear Kong out sooner or later. He packs the proportionate strength of a spider and that's gonna hurt Kong no matter what.

Oh I think Spiderman can win towards this variation of Kong, but I laugh at how he lists spiderman fighting intelligently when its not against wolverine...

First of all a T-Rex weighs close to 40-50 ton range and Kong threw one like nothing.
The Godzilla version sucked and was stupid and it created alot of things to help Kong out. Made him taller gave him the ability to absorb electricity and gave Godzilla a weakness to it.
Kong is a lot stronger than Spidey and his Primal Fury is crazy. He is fast and agile and has a very long reach. Spidey has to be on his best game and use his enviroment to win.

Originally posted by newjak86
First of all a T-Rex weighs close to 40-50 ton range and Kong threw one like nothing.
The Godzilla version sucked and was stupid and it created alot of things to help Kong out. Made him taller gave him the ability to absorb electricity and gave Godzilla a weakness to it.
Kong is a lot stronger than Spidey and his Primal Fury is crazy. He is fast and agile and has a very long reach. Spidey has to be on his best game and use his enviroment to win.

40-50 Tons?
thats a fatass T-rex

They don't way that much, there closer to the 7 Ton range about 13,000 to 16,000 pounds. If you don't belive me use this little thing called GOOGLE!!!!!!

Originally posted by SpyCspider
oh...and just to clarify, Kong didnt' lose to Godzilla or vice versa in that cheesy movie.

Kong leaaves and you hear Godzilla roar in the distance. Some other kaiju fan please verify this.

Jap version.... American version had Kong roaring!

Re: KING Kong vs. SPIDERman

Originally posted by jgiant
Kong (05) believes that spiderman has harmed or even killed ann...can spiderman survive...fight happens on in NYC...what happens...

Spider-Man can survive by getting the hell out of there and waiting for the National Guard. I don't think he's strong enough to take out Kong by himself.

Ok, did anyone noticed the last scene in the movie. The famous Empire state building Scene? Kong was badly cornered on the top, bad shot. He somehow knew he gonna lose and die. In his realm he is Undisputed King, but here he is a captive in an alien enviroment. But still he refuses to give up... beating his chest and slamming it on the floor (awesome scene!).

Kong might not lose, till he is cornered or killed. Spidey is likely not to kill him.

One other thing as far as Kong's strength. Now, this argument has one big assumption: that his strength is somehow increased in direct proportion to his weight. It's not an unfair assumption, given how he seems able to move as a "normal" ape would, but scaled up. So, anyways...assuming kong is at least eight times as large as a normal gorilla, his weight would by 512 times that of a normal gorilla. Therefore, we can assume that he is 512 times as strong as a normal gorilla. Modestly estimating a gorilla s being able to lift 200 pounds, that would put Kong into the Class 50 category at a minimum. More likely he's actually stronger, because I'm pretty sure gorillas are a bit stronger than that, and don't forget that he's probably really strong, even for a gorilla...but that's my estimate.

Sound reasonable?

Yes indeed... Gorilla are big and strong that they don't have natural predators. That is why Kong beat the crap out of 3 T-rexes.

Originally posted by Melnorme
One other thing as far as Kong's strength. Now, this argument has one big assumption: that his strength is somehow increased in direct proportion to his weight. It's not an unfair assumption, given how he seems able to move as a "normal" ape would, but scaled up. So, anyways...assuming kong is at least eight times as large as a normal gorilla, his weight would by 512 times that of a normal gorilla. Therefore, we can assume that he is 512 times as strong as a normal gorilla. Modestly estimating a gorilla s being able to lift 200 pounds, that would put Kong into the Class 50 category at a minimum. More likely he's actually stronger, because I'm pretty sure gorillas are a bit stronger than that, and don't forget that he's probably really strong, even for a gorilla...but that's my estimate.

Sound reasonable?

A gorilla can lift more than 200 pounds alot more. They are solid muscle at their weight. A gorilla could probably move around 800 pounds no problem.

Originally posted by joesha28
Jap version.... American version had Kong roaring!

that is true. 🙂

Originally posted by newjak86
First of all a T-Rex weighs close to 40-50 ton range and Kong threw one like nothing.

😐 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrannosaurus_rex

but yes, he did throw one like it was nothing. Kong was pretty powerful in that scene, and I don't doubt he can be a lot stronger than we'd expect. He picked up an entire train carriage in the classic.

Originally posted by newjak86
A gorilla can lift more than 200 pounds alot more. They are solid muscle at their weight. A gorilla could probably move around 800 pounds no problem.

Well, if you think that's more accurate, then just multiply by 4, and there it is. 🙂

Originally posted by Melnorme
One other thing as far as Kong's strength. Now, this argument has one big assumption: that his strength is somehow increased in direct proportion to his weight. It's not an unfair assumption, given how he seems able to move as a "normal" ape would, but scaled up. So, anyways...assuming kong is at least eight times as large as a normal gorilla, his weight would by 512 times that of a normal gorilla. Therefore, we can assume that he is 512 times as strong as a normal gorilla. Modestly estimating a gorilla s being able to lift 200 pounds, that would put Kong into the Class 50 category at a minimum. More likely he's actually stronger, because I'm pretty sure gorillas are a bit stronger than that, and don't forget that he's probably really strong, even for a gorilla...but that's my estimate.

Sound reasonable?

Sounds reasonable,reasonable enough to say that Kong wins 10/10 against Spider-Man.Spidey has no chance because he's smaller and weaker than Kong.Kong just has to be right on the money and get just one hit in to defeat Spidey.

Oh and Kong wasn't fighting T-Rexes in the movie,he was fight V-Rexes.I haven't even seen the movie and I know that.

This King Kong is very fast and agile - Spidey will spend most of the time running and swinging away, with KK hot breath right behind! He'd have to set a trap with a big web, then web him even more until he's shot his load completely 😉 then throw a car to the head to knock KK out. Otherwise, he's bug food.

If King Kong is porptionaly as strong as a male silverback gorilla and is around 25 feet tall his strength is somewhere between 20-60 tons. Spider-man can engage Kong in melee combat with almost zero chance of Kong hitting him and just pound him. If Spider-man goes all out Kong and doesn't pull his punches like he is known to do Kong will be finished in short order.

I'm giving this fight to Spider-man, not because he is the better fighter, but because he has home field advantage. Spidey would flee to the top of the Empire State Building, and Kong would follow. Spidey dodges the blows and eventually Kong loses his balance and falls to his death.

If this battle is on Skull Island, it's a completely different story.